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  1. Ok....Barry Zito was the same age as Tillman when his career went off the cliff. Zito also had a much better track record of success. If SF did not owe him a ton of money he would never have pitched as long as he did. Anyone who watches baseball knows that some players age gracefully and others just fall off the proverbial cliff. One day they are a decent player then 2 years later they are that guy that people say....Hey whatever happened to (insert name). Some guys owed a ton of money cling on longer (Zito, Cliff Lee etc)
  2. No matter what happens from here on out, you kinda gotta tip your cap to this team. It would have been easy for the team to collapse under the weight of the atrocious starting pitching and swirling trade rumors. My guess is that Buck had a simple message. Play better, win and give them a reason to think otherwise. To the teams credit, whatever the reason, they have done exactly that. These are some scrappy dudes IMO. No team that had as bad a run of starting pitching as we did should be sniffing the playoffs and yet, here we are in striking distance now. That's some pretty cool stuff. Yea we can debate if they should have been sellers but hey, at least the team is making the most of the decision that was made.
  3. SteveO

    Is it?

    Given the options, I'll put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up. Then I can live with it if it is or if it is not lol
  4. Even though he had not been "King" Felix since coming back from the DL, I'll take it.
  5. 3.81 in 2016 with SF (not horrifying but not decent in the NL) 4.96 in 2015 with the CWS In 2014 he was good. Its not a perfect comparison but its not out of this world off base either IMO
  6. Dude has a 4.75 ERA in the National League. I would hardly call that still pitching decently
  7. In short....its how prospects get the chance to be more than prospects. Every year formerly good or respectable pitchers fall off the map. Some come back and rebound, some don't. Tillman could be either or As you point out though. It happens all the time.
  8. lol yup There are any number of one mans trash is another mans treasure in Baseball history. If we can happen to be on the good end of that instead of the bad end (Arrieta among others)....I'll take it lol DD does have a knack for finding guys like Beckham, Pearce and others who fill a role and do it pretty decently. If he had that same knack where it came to SP then we might have like 3-4 World Series trophies to gawk at
  9. Another guy who comes to mind is Joey Bats......course who knows how much of that was scenery and how much was other things
  10. Do you think there could be anything to the idea that if you take a guy who is talented but underachieving and now they are suddenly playing between two guys like Machado and Schoop in a new setting, with a new team, a quasi fresh start so to speak, sometimes that scenario can reawaken a guy who is struggling. Obviously the talent has to be there.
  11. No doubt. Totally agree. One year small money. Optimally we are talking about a 1 year deal for small enough money that if he comes out and looks like hot garbage then you just DFA him. If he rebounds then your getting a nice deal and some good numbers from your 5th starter. If someone wants to take a bigger risk than that on him...more power to them and good luck.
  12. If Manny signs on the dotted line to stay.....he can play anywhere he damn well pleases far as I am concerned lol. That's a problem I will be glad the team has to deal with cause it means Manny is sticking around
  13. It's certainly possible that Tillman will not bounce back and he will scuffle along another year or two before fading into baseball oblivion. Based on his history though, there is a chance he could bounce back. As pointed out in this thread, his FB velocity is around it's norm. Tillman would not be the first guy to sustain an injury, come back and just stumble through a lost season then bounce back somewhat to form the next. Only time will tell but I think its a bit premature to say he just "got bad" given the circumstances that have surrounded his season to date. His future is certainly questionable but I would take a flyer on him with a one year low money deal. Even if he gave you 80% of what he has before that would make for a decentish back of the rotation type guy on the cheap (veteran to boot).
  14. Oh to be a fly on the wall for some of that under the radar type stuff. Most likely,, as with most things, its some of this and some of that. Put your finger on one hole and the next one springs a leak. It's almost never as easy as identifying just one thing and fixing it.
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