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  1. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Yeah probably around 2 cents.
  2. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Totally a different conversation. You are talking about things that have no intrinsic value.
  3. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    No the market is illogical. It has nothing to do with coins. It is reading financial statements. Seeing when people overreact. Read as much as you can and don't believe what others are advising. Starbucks stock went way down because their growth slowed in quarterly report. They are selling coffee for $4 a cup. Costs them next to nothing to make the coffee. Return investment is better than anyones. I see people lined up to get their coffee. Coffee is addicting. Bought 24k. Made 6k in 3 months and sold out. Their stock was being sold at a price of a company that is doing poorly. There are always these temporary overreactions. People think short-term.
  4. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Value is not determined by market. Market is highly illogical. Anyway I guess this illogical thought process is why I have beat the stock market by at least 4 percent in each of the last 3 years. If you say the market is always right you are going to end up with bad results.
  5. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Look at their team. See how much they paid for free agents and see how much WAR they returned.
  6. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    No a player has a value with regards to all players in the league that are available and how they can help your team within your budget. If you overpay you are just hurting your team.
  7. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    What input. Their argument is whatever is paid for a contract in free agency is the right price and there is no over payment. How would I even discuss that?
  8. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    The assumption here (posters on this board) is that whatever a contract was signed for was a sensible rate for a free agent player. So the logic is contracts that Chris Davis and Pujlos were wise decisions by the clubs because that was the going rate for players and the market is always right. I disagree with this assertion. To me the whole argument is the same argument I have with people who "invest" in the stock market who don't know the P/E to a company, their debt, their return on invested capital, free cash flow or any financial data what ever. They say well this is a good company so I am buying their stock no matter what the price. As stock is only worth what people are willing to pay for it on the day they are buying. If you are going to include all the terrible long term contracts as a basis of the dollar value of WAR there is really nothing I can do to discuss this anymore. Really I am not sure how people can think so simplistically but it is worthless arguing with people with such a mindset.
  9. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Well perhaps you could use independent thought for once. See how these numbers are calculated and do some research. I would say ove half the people who quote WAR all the time don't even know the calculations or even the differences between FWAR and BWAR.
  10. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Look at teams that succeed on an Orioles budget and see how much they are actually paying for free agents per dollar. You can use failures like the Angels for an example. They are a failure because they way overpaid for Pujlos. You seem to think that they are using some kind of future value chart. But no they are borrowing from their future. GM wants to win now and doesn't care what happens 5 years from now because he might not even have a job. Are you going to use Chris Davis in your formula of how much free agents are worth? Because some stupid owner gave him a contract that was not logical?
  11. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    The A's and Ray's can't afford to add $80 million to their payroll. It is just comical how bad you guys are at math. Look at the teams that are succeeding for low payrolls. They sign for free agents but they pay a lot less than $8 million for WAR.
  12. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Actually looking at the Brewers. It seems they signed a lot of free agents but they paid a lot less than $8 million per WAR.
  13. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    If they signed him for $80 million a year for 8 years they would. Their good players would start to get arbitration. They would have to trade them for prospects so they could pay for Trout.
  14. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    Yeah I use logic and math and you use something you read on a blog.
  15. atomic

    Anyone Following Manny? (Signs with San Diego)

    It is useless arguing with some people. You point is not logical. I dont know what more I can say. Your proof to show value is overpaying teams did in free agency and you think teams go in thinking players will be bad after they sign to huge contracts and that is how you determine value. If you have 200 million budget you cant pay one player 80 million a year because he had 10 WAR a year the last few years. Your team would be terrible as you would have no money for other players.
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