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    Waste of International Bounty. New GM. Discuss.

    I will remain skeptical of Elias's autonomy until I see enough to show otherwise, so in that respect, I'm on the hill with CoC. I found it quite surprising that Elias would flat out lie about hiring Hyde while it was simultaneously being announced on TV that we had hired him. That's kind of... weird. It's still early, but it does plant a small seed of doubt/skepticism/concern about Elias. It's too early for me to commit to anything regarding this situation, but that really threw up a "WTF" flag for me when I read about that on here and although I think Elias was the right hire for this club, there are some things I just need to see to believe. Too early, but I remain skeptical. Elias lying about hiring Hyde while it's being announced we hired him is just weird. I don't know what to make of that, but it didn't instill any confidence that's for sure. Maybe it was just a mess-up for the rookie GM. We'll see.
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    Speed

    Indeed. Any twisting motion of the trunk engages the obliques. Putting a high amount of force behind those movements would increase the risk of injury. Of course, pitchers repeatedly go full force with those twisting motions with every pitch. Hitters use a lot of force in those movements as well especially when they are trying to hit for power with every swing. Theoretically, it seems like such a correlation would exist, but I have no idea. I'd be interested to know.
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    Speed

    I've never thought about this much, but perhaps you have and can give some insight. Are oblique injuries more prevalent among players who rely predominantly on power? My thinking is swinging harder might put hitters more at risk for oblique injuries, but I don't know there's any truth in that at all as it just popped into my mind. It also seems that many of those SB related injuries are to the hand from sliding face first. That's a technique/preference thing and it's probably much safer to slide feet first, but I understand how head first is preferred just because you can grab the base with your hand. Really, sliding into a base is pretty hazardous no matter what the circumstances are or how you do it. I would be happy just having a palatable speed element to our game as I think it's a desirable element for a team to have. I don't want everyone being of the same player type with the idea being each player brings something to the table that others don't have as opposed to everyone bringing the same thing to the table which produces a team that lacks versatility. I think steals/speed should be a part of the deal, a cog, but not the whole machine. So, personally, I'm not sure I would say "build around", but I would want the machine to have that element both for my outfield and as an option to manufacture runs on the bases.
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    Speed

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed you were implying that players shouldn't steal because they might get hurt or that it should be a detriment to doing so. If that is what you're saying, that implied meaning is what I was replying with in mind. Is that not correct?
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    Speed

    Sure, but I doubt Trout is going to be on first base thinking that he better not steal second because he might get hurt. I just don't buy that. In the heat of the moment, you want to do what it takes to win the game. I understand where you're coming from, I just don't agree. Putting your body on the line for your team is just part of the job and occasional injuries are part of the territory. I don't imagine rationality would trump competitiveness and the desire to win when you see an opportunity to go the extra mile for your team. It's kind of the same thing in hockey when it comes to star players blocking shots. You have to do it and put your body on the line, injuries be damned.
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    Speed

    That's a really bad angle IMO. So does standing in the batter's box, diving for fly balls, swinging a bat, throwing a ball, running around in the outfield. So what? So does everything else when it comes to sports. Everything increases your chances of injury.
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    Speed

    I don't want to keep beating this horse as we'll all agree to disagree. Again, I am basically referring to players who can steal successfully at an adequate rate and not all players who steal bases or can steal bases. There is obviously a balance to strike there, so we're not in disagreement there. The rub is when i think about what the difference is between a player who reaches second with a double and a player that reaches second through a steal. Once that runner is on second base, what's the difference? What does it matter how they got there? The only thing that matters to me is that he's there and once he's there, the "how" is irrelevant. The only responsibility the runner has at that point is not getting picked off or getting thrown out trying to steal third. The rest of the responsibility for scoring that run is on the bats that come up after this. That's why these stats, to me, are doing more to confuse a very simple aspect than anything else. If Joey Rickard is on second base and Chris Davis is at the plate, what does it matter how Rickard got to second? It's all the same thing once he's there and it comes down to RISP production from the rest of the offense. I fail to understand what significance such a stat would hold that tries to differentiate between a runner that reached second base VIA a double and one that reached VIA a steal. Once the runner is on second, what's the difference? The bottom line is a player got himself in scoring position. How he got there will not affect whether or not Chris Davis strikes out and these stats you're throwing at me attempt to assign meaning to something that has no meaning. A stolen base is a cog in the run scoring machine. It is one of many means to get yourself into scoring position to make it easier for your teammates to drive you in. The more means a team is able to assimilate into their strategy to generate scoring chances, the better. If those scoring chances don't pan out, it does not mean that the means used to get those scoring chances is negligible. Anyway, I said all I wanted to pretty much. We'll just agree to disagree, but I think it's a flawed statistic that produces misleading data.
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    Speed

    That's a fair point, but I'm not sure that I would count it against them for not being able to stay healthy since it's not necessarily something in your control past a certain degree. I agree about Hammonds as well.
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    Speed

    Of course there's variables, but the bottom line is a stolen base creates a scoring chance by moving a runner into scoring position or improves one by moving a runner to third or getting two guys in scoring position instead of one. To say that steals are negligible because they don't score is extremely misleading since the reason they didn't score has nothing at all to do with the stolen base. It has to do with the guys behind him in the order that failed to bring him in and this data then uses that failure of the batter to justify saying steals are negligible. It's flawed. Let's extend that to other situations, a bases empty double for example. What this data is trying to tell me is that if that runner doesn't score, it means bases empty doubles are negligible even though the reason the run didn't score had nothing to do with the double. Scoring chances are not guaranteed runs, they are chances. If we get a lead off double and the next three guys strike out, that does not mean that lead off doubles are negligible and that's what this data is saying about steals. It is projecting the responsibility of the other hitters in the lineup to produce with RISP on the stolen base or the double and using that as "data" to say that the scoring chance created by those plays are negligible. What if we got three walks to lead off the inning and the next three guys strike out. Does that mean walks are negligible? Does it mean loading the bases is meaningless? That's why this is a team sport. There's lots of ways to put runners in scoring position with steals being only one such way. Doubles are another way, a single and a walk is another way and so on. If those runs don't score, it's not because they are meaningless, negligible strategies. It means the offense failed to produce with RISP. This is blame misplaced. The guy who hits the double or hits a single/takes a walk and steals second both got themselves into scoring position. They did their part. Their part is not negligible if his teammates fail to produce and bring him home. What more are they supposed to do exactly? Steal home? Whether that run scores or not has nothing to do with the double, steal or walks. It has to do with the failure of the rest of the lineup.
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    Speed

    Yes they do. By default, getting a runner into scoring position is a scoring chance. The math that doesn't work is implying that stealing successfully seven times out of 10 is "negated" by the three times he got caught. That's ridiculous. It is negated when he gets caught stealing too often. Henderson's 1406 stolen bases were completely negated by the 335 times he got caught and Altuve's 248 career steals are completely negated by the 69 times he got caught. Whit Merrifield, Jose Ramirez, Starling Marte, Adalberto Mondesi, Mookie Betts, Trevor Story, Francisco Lindor, Mike Trout, Christian Yelich, Javier Baez, Andrew Benintendi and Jose Altuve are all in the top 30 in steals last year and have decent to exceptional power. Merrifield isn't much for home runs, but hit 43 doubles. Just draft the best athletes and go from there. You'll get speed with everything else.
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    Speed

    Hey man, I said I agreed with you about Hamilton. If you can't get on base, then it certainly puts significant limits any potential benefits his base running speed would bring to the table. I am more referring to guys that can get on base and can steal once they get there. I kind of went off on my own points halfway through that, so it wasn't all directed at you. I agree fully with your comments about Billy Hamilton and I am certainly not overlooking the fact that a guy that struggles to get on base is effectively negating his athletic gift of base running speed and stolen base ability. You can't steal second from the dugout. I am more referring to the guys who can get on base and can steal bases at an acceptable success rate. When I said it's irrelevant, I was more referring to how people like to say that there are more important stats to look at and draft for and they are correct, but just because there are more important stats does not mean steals are negligible. The fact that better stats exist really has nothing to do with it when trying to look at steals on their own merits. The purpose of stealing bases is to create scoring chances VIA putting runners in scoring position or improving an existing scoring chance by stealing third or executing a double steal. When people point to stats saying that steals are "negligible", what's basically being said is that scoring chances are negligible if they are created with a stolen base. That is ridiculous. Who in their right mind would argue against additional scoring chances? That's what stolen bases do; they create scoring chances. That is in no way negligible. Whether or not that scoring chance becomes a run on the board is totally on the rest of the offense.
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    Speed

    While I agree about Billy Hamilton, it still misses the bigger picture. Whether or not stolen bases translate into runs is entirely dependent on what the hitters in the lineup behind that stolen base do. If they produce on a regular basis behind a guy who steals second frequently, it's going to translate into more runs than if those players did not produce such as on bad offensive teams that don't hit well with RISP. The guy stealing the base can only do so much and I consider being able to put yourself in scoring position without needing a hit as being desirable because it puts the team in a better position to score runs. Any stat that tries to tell me that a runner on second is of negligible benefit when compared to a runner on first is a flawed statistic just as any stat that implies that a lead-off double isn't significantly better than a lead off single. A runner in scoring position is ALWAYS better than a runner on first base. Whether or not that runner on second base scores, no matter how he got there, is entirely dependent on his teammates producing behind him with RISP. This is why steals work better for some teams than others and why it doesn't make a bad team better. The fact that there are more important stats is irrelevant since I don't see anyone saying that it should be among those stats. The argument that steals are negligible equates to getting a runner on second base instead of first base as also being negligible. The team has a better chance to score with a runner on second than a runner on first. Stolen bases put teams in a better position to score a run since it can be done with a single in that situation. Whether or not they score that run is not a strike against the impact of stolen bases because the base stealer can't score himself except in very rare cases. It's a team effort. If it's a good team, it would work better. If it's not, it won't work at all.
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    Speed

    I like steals, too. The thing is a bad team that steals a lot of bases is still a bad team because a bad team's offense struggles to translate it into runs often enough. A good team with a good offense that can add stolen bases into the equation should get far more benefit from them since their offense hits enough to score those runs from second base. Steals only work if the offense is of a certain quality. A team like the Orioles who are last in BA and OBP aren't going to see too many of those steals cross the plate. They make good offenses better and do nothing for bad ones. Of course, I have no stats to back that up, but that is why I don't buy that steals are always a non-factor in winning. It depends on the team and the overall quality of the offense in the ways that really matter such as OBP, wRC+ and so on. For bad offensive teams, I agree that it's a non-factor though it does make watching a losing team more exciting. I'm not as confident in saying that about good offensive teams. If steals don't translate into runs for your team, it's because the guys in the lineup behind those steals don't produce often enough. I don't think that means steals are useless, but their effectiveness is largely determined by the quality of the rest of the offense IMO. I'm all for building a team that can take advantage of steals. It's definitely exciting especially if it leads to a World Series. A team that is built well enough to turn base stealing into run production is a much better team than one based heavily around power. I am excited to see what Mike Elias does which is, by the way, a hire that I am resoundingly happy about. The A brothers have earned some slack with me. I think they made the right decision and it was a big decision with huge ramifications. I think they got it right. I'm glad.
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    Ex-Orioles in the postseason

    So, what all has he done now? He grabbed the leg of the guy turning a double play while sliding into second base twice, didn't hustle on a play that he may have beaten out if he did and intentionally kicked the first baseman's leg when running past him. Sounds pretty dirty to me and the lack of hustle is something we saw plenty of when he was here. He comes out publicly and flat out says he doesn't hustle and isn't going to start hustling more (the new Manny being Manny), so what precedent is that going to set when he (likely) gets the biggest contract of the offseason? Also, Machado saying he was "trying to step over" Aguilar's foot when he kicked him sounds a lot like Roger Clemens not being able to tell the difference between the barrel of a broken bat and a baseball and forgot that he wasn't supposed to throw the ball at the runner after fielding it. Machado dragged his foot on the ground (presumably to slow the momentum of his leg so he didn't kick Aguilar too hard) and deliberately kicked him. It's not throwing a bat, but he intentionally kicked a guy when it could have easily been avoided. How do you try to "step over" him by dragging your foot on the ground right into his ankle? He's lying right to people's faces about something completely obvious to everyone else. It's a classic "don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining" situation IMO. I never cared much for Manny's attitude and he has really let it all out this postseason. Meh, I'm glad he's gone. I only wish we would have dealt him a year or so earlier. BTW, a 10 grand suspension is a joke. MLB might as well have fined him $1. What message is a $10,000 fine supposed to send to a multimillionaire about to break the bank? I am sure Manny being Manny is going to be in the headlines more and more especially after he gets paid.
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    The Victor Victor Mesa/Sandy Gaston thread

    First off, I didn't say "it's all the cops" nor did I make "sweeping statements" about anyone. I provided links to the things I was referring to. You're creating strawmen in an emotional tirade and attacking them. Nice that you would reinforce my feelings about it all by saying "don't call us next time you need us" in the midst of your rage as if you would choose not to help someone based on a difference of opinion or viewpoint with that person. All of that sounds far more embarrassing for you if you really believe that and all over a bunch of things I never even said. Sounds exactly why I don't trust the police as much as I should. Anyway, since someone eluded to a thread being locked for talking about Baltimore City (which I was not aware of), so I will cease discussion on the topic now. I blame the Mesas for taking their time signing with someone.
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