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17 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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(AUGUST 24th)

 

The Orioles have a day off.

The Yankees lose.

 

Close enough, particularly considering that the Orioles won their most recent game yesterday afternoon.

 

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Not only that, but they probably have some suspensions coming up after several bench-clearing incidents and one brawl:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-tigers-get-into-massive-brawl-after-miguel-cabrera-throws-some-punches/

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20 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Not only that, but they probably have some suspensions coming up after several bench-clearing incidents and one brawl:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-tigers-get-into-massive-brawl-after-miguel-cabrera-throws-some-punches/

I just watched all the "action" clips on Gameday. Wow. Lots of HBP and bad blood. I think there were some lingering issues from their recent NYC series?

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1 hour ago, NashLumber said:

I just watched all the "action" clips on Gameday. Wow. Lots of HBP and bad blood. I think there were some lingering issues from their recent NYC series?

The bean ball to McCann's head was scary.  But I guess those hi-tech batting helmets work.

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3 hours ago, Chavez Ravine said:

The bean ball to McCann's head was scary.  But I guess those hi-tech batting helmets work.

Like a force field, apparently. I never would have believed it. If it misses the helmet and gets one's face, eyes or nose, ... man.

That's some ridiculous stuff, that head hunting. 98mph. 

There's a theory in one story I read that Cabrerra had planned that fight so he'd be ejected before his at bat as he wanted no part of a 103mph fastball at his head from Chapman. Can't blame him.

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4 hours ago, Chavez Ravine said:

 

The bean ball to McCann's head was scary. But I guess those hi-tech batting helmets work.

 

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The thrower of that pitch to McCann should be suspended for the rest of the season, if not for life. It was that scary and intentional. If Gerardi (from the clubhouse) or a coach called for that pitch the same goes for them. I am not opposed to a brushback pitch thigh high or so at 85 or so..but to throw that hard and high is just wrong.

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2 minutes ago, UpstateNYfan said:

The thrower of that pitch to McCann should be suspended for the rest of the season, if not for life. It was that scary and intentional. If Gerardi (from the clubhouse) or a coach called for that pitch the same goes for them. I am not opposed to a brushback pitch thigh high or so at 85 or so..but to throw that hard and high is just wrong.

Agreed. Also notice, McCann. That pitch was so fast (YES clock read 98mph), he had practically zero time to respond. It's on him before he had time to hardly move. At all. Can you imagine one from Chapman at 102 - 103?

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7 hours ago, UpstateNYfan said:

The thrower of that pitch to McCann should be suspended for the rest of the season, if not for life. It was that scary and intentional. If Gerardi (from the clubhouse) or a coach called for that pitch the same goes for them. I am not opposed to a brushback pitch thigh high or so at 85 or so..but to throw that hard and high is just wrong.

I would support a 15-game suspension because it is a fastball above the shoulders and it is clearly intentional.. And, like PED usage, the length of suspension gets longer for repeat offenders. 

But we need to be careful what we wish for or the league will start doling month-long suspensions to pitchers who flip curveballs off batters' butts.

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15 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

I would support a 15-game suspension because it is a fastball above the shoulders and it is clearly intentional.. And, like PED usage, the length of suspension gets longer for repeat offenders. 

But we need to be careful what we wish for or the league will start doling month-long suspensions to pitchers who flip curveballs off batters' butts.

I would support Brian McCann  being able to select the pitcher of his choice to throw a fastball at Betances' head. I guarantee you Betances' head hunting days would be over for good after that experience.

Honestly, I can't think of anything more cowardly than throwing a baseball at someone. As archaic as fighting is in hockey, I can at least respect the fact that it's two men on equal terms. In baseball it's like giving one man a gun and the other a stick. 

MLB also needs to levy heavy fines on anyone who leaves the bench. The first fight was basically over until the bullpen pitchers came sprinting in from the OF to stir things up again. 

And much like umpires catchers need to go back to being seen and not heard. A catcher should never be the one instigating a fight. There's no reason a catcher needs to talk back if the batter's complaining about the strike zone. Let the umpire do his job and keep your mouth shut. 

 

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2 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

I would support a 15-game suspension because it is a fastball above the shoulders and it is clearly intentional.. And, like PED usage, the length of suspension gets longer for repeat offenders. 

But we need to be careful what we wish for or the league will start doling month-long suspensions to pitchers who flip curveballs off batters' butts.

Yes, you do have to be careful. However, in this situation after warnings had been given, there is reason for a very strong discipline.  The player in the batter's box should be pretty comfortable that no such pitch was on its way. I said I really don't think 80 mph, curves, change ups at the butt are a huge issue. Even throwing behind the hitter with a fastball. This was a no nonsense, shot at the head. Whether he was dumb enough to throw that pitch on his or a coach/manager told him so something has to be done. IMO the minimum should be season ending. All, players and managers would be on notice and think twice.

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16 hours ago, Chavez Ravine said:

 

The bean ball to McCann's head was scary. But I guess those hi-tech batting helmets work.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, OFFNY said:

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Last week was the 50th Anniversary of the Tony Conigliaro beaning.

 

Beaning Sends Ailing Tony Conigliaro to Hospital

(By Clif Keane)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/1967/08/19/beaning-sends-ailing-tony-conigliaro-hospital/vCsgsKec7l5lvoF0mN9xSK/story.html

 

 

Conigliaro.jpg

 

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3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

And Bentences gets nothing.

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Must be nice to have friends in the commissioners office. Sanchez's suspension is a joke too, he was in the middle of everything, should get the same as Cabrera

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9 minutes ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Lol

Betances should've gotten 25 games. 

There was even a very long discussion of the evidence among the umps before he was thrown out of the game in the first place!

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