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21 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Yes, extremes do matter.  But starting 1-4?  You'd prefer not to, but overreaction is more of a concern than anything else right now.  Luckily team management is about five times more patient than the fanbase.

Man, I was not being reactionary..just giving fans a reference point. Depending on your attitude you can take either way, negatively or positively, doomed or hopeful.

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Just now, UpstateNYfan said:

It is only April 4th and no team has even played 10 games, so a rather non-relevant comparison. I was just stating a review of teams with poor starts that made the playoffs. Oakland had won only 8 games by the end of April and ended up with 102 wins. No team has won only 7 games by April's end and made the playoff. Quite a few here have stated how difficult the O's April schedule is, if they continue to play as poorly as they are, in all phases of the game, they will be lucky to win 8-10 games.

Hey no hard feelings, but this is MY POINT EXACTLY.  Hell if they continue to play as they are, in all phases of the game....the bright side will be you and I can chat about this in the dugout, while bating 8th and 9th for the Orioles.  Well, you can probably bat higher....I have always struggled with the slider and I'm 55 so I doubt the layoff has made me better.

 

Your fretting about the end of the month on the 4th.  The Orioles in April are 0-3.  So if Im too far out front......Im just trying to chase you down. ;) 

 

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23 minutes ago, interloper said:

The problem with losing games you should have won is that you don't build in a cushion for when guys like Dylan Bundy randomly have bad games. 

How do you put yesterday in the “should have won” category?    Because they blew a one-run lead in the 6th inning and eventually lost?    I mean, it’s certainly a game we could have won, but it’s not like we were leading most of that game.    We were behind almost the entire game.

For me, the bigger issue is not to blow out of proportion things that happen early in the season.    It’s not exactly analogous, but it reminds me of that thread someone started when we had a poor start in spring training.   

I’m not worried that this team is going to score 2.4 runs/game.    I’m not worried that Gausman and Cashner are going to pitch terribly on a regular basis.    I’m not worried that our bullpen is going to blow every save opportunity they get.    Do I worry about other things?    Yes.    But it takes time to sort out what’s just a bad few games, and what’s a meaningful trend.     So we need to be patient.   

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

How do you put yesterday in the “should have won” category?    Because they blew a one-run lead in the 6th inning and eventually lost?    I mean, it’s certainly a game we could have won, but it’s not like we were leading most of that game.    We were behind almost the entire game.

For me, the bigger issue is not to blow out of proportion things that happen early in the season.    It’s not exactly analogous, but it reminds me of that thread someone started when we had a poor start in spring training.   

I’m not worried that this team is going to score 2.4 runs/game.    I’m not worried that Gausman and Cashner are going to pitch terribly on a regular basis.    I’m not worried that our bullpen is going to blow every save opportunity they get.    Do I worry about other things?    Yes.    But it takes time to sort out what’s just a bad few games, and what’s a meaningful trend.     So we need to be patient.   

I hear you, I just think any game that Wright pitches well in AND we score 6 runs AND have a lead in the 6th inning, with the supposedly good bullpen we have... gotta win that game. Not saying it was automatic or whatever, just... it sucks to have not won a game containing those parameters.

Also, I think you probably SHOULD worry about Gausman pitching terribly on a regular basis. He did for 50% of the season last year, so there's precedent. 

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

There were some positives last night.    Mike Wright pitched a respectable game and a number of cold bats warmed up.     The bullpen let us down but I was still glad to see some runs on the board and a game that was competitive until the late innings.    I know it’s all doom and gloom when your team is 1-4, but hopefully the team draws on the positives and starts turning things around.   

I was actually going to write a similar post. Wright(for now) showed he can pitch against a formidable offense and pitch well. He had some bad breaks...the inside the park HR and the fact that Mancini was robbed of a 3-run HR. If Wright can gain confidence and pitch with his head on his shoulder intact....maybe we can see him blossom....I also liked the teams' energy and competitiveness.I still don't get why Buck would go so early to Givens, and then go with back to back Rule 5 pitchers with the game tied. Even though O'Day pitched the night before, I would've gone with him again instead of the two Rule 5 guys. Turned the entire game around.Still, I was encouraged by SOME of what I saw. Also, I like Sisco at the bat, but his arm and reaction time on throws doesn't seem major league ready...

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They started out 21-10 last year and we saw how that turned out. Give it 50 games and let's see where we are.

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2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Yes, extremes do matter.  But starting 1-4?  You'd prefer not to, but overreaction is more of a concern than anything else right now.  Luckily team management is about five times more patient than the fanbase.

I'm more concerned with the fact that Orioles feel they are "going for it" with a roster that includes three Rule 5 picks, 4 non-roster players, and two starters who haven't been good at starting major league baseball games since 2016. Then add in a $23 million year player who hasn't been good since he signed that massive boat anchor of a contract (you could argue he was decent in 2016 but not worth the money) leading off, a defensive outfield that is two steps short of having even decent range, and a bullpen that is short on shutdown relievers and you have a team to be concerned about.

Am I worried about starting 1-4? Nope. I'm worried that this roster doesn't even look close to being able to compete for a playoff spot this year. This is the last year of this core group so things most likely aren't getting better next year. This is what i'm worried about.

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I know we're only 5 games in and things can and will obviously change. But, seeing us play the Twins and Astros it's pretty clear we're not an upper echelon team. We've over achieved in the past but this team's roster just doesn't seem like it can truly contend. I hope I'm wrong.

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I believe Rasmus and Alvarez are dead weight. They can't release Davis, but he's getting worse...the two Rule 5 guys have to be carried to keep them as well as Santander.This roster will look different in a month or so...a great deal different...

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Stop with the negative waves. Look at the bright side. Last year we finished last. Now we are only tied for last. I hope this cheers everyone up a little. 

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33 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

I'm more concerned with the fact that Orioles feel they are "going for it" with a roster that includes three Rule 5 picks, 4 non-roster players, and two starters who haven't been good at starting major league baseball games since 2016. Then add in a $23 million year player who hasn't been good since he signed that massive boat anchor of a contract (you could argue he was decent in 2016 but not worth the money) leading off, a defensive outfield that is two steps short of having even decent range, and a bullpen that is short on shutdown relievers and you have a team to be concerned about.

Am I worried about starting 1-4? Nope. I'm worried that this roster doesn't even look close to being able to compete for a playoff spot this year. This is the last year of this core group so things most likely aren't getting better next year. This is what i'm worried about.

...and some of the fixes are already here: Cobb, Scott, Hays, benching Davis, hopefully Britton helps.  Maybe Harvey at some point, even if just for the pen.

We just have to play the best options, at the best spots.  Really wish they had signed Jay.  That was stupid.  I'll be just fine with Buck moving on.

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