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Peter Tork Died: The Make-Believe Band that Actually Came to Life

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As Micky Dolenz once stated, "Pinocchio came to life" in regard to the plight of the once artificial band evolving into a real band.

There still seems to be a contingent of people that still believe/presume that the Monkees were a fake band.

Part of the problem is that the Monkees DID start out as a fake band. After their first two albums, they gained their autonomy to play their own instruments on their albums (starting with the Headquarters album in 1967), and went on concert tours by themselves ........ the artificial quartet became an actual band. Additionally, Mike Nesmith wrote "Different Drum" for the Stone Poneys. 


As for the late Peter Tork, he and Mike Nesmith were both already hardcore musicians at the time in which they were chosen as two of the 4 members for the new television series. The other two members (Micky Dolenz and Davy Jones) were world-class singers, so the quartet had a solid foundation/basis for their subsequent evolution into a bonafide band. Tork left the group in 1968 after the release of the group's double-platinum Head album, and the band made two additional albums as a trio before the departure of Mike Nesmith finalized the dissolution of the band that fought for (and won) its autonomy from Don Kirshner and company.


Tork was 77 years-old.


Goodbye, Peter Tork. The Monkees Made Believers of Us All

(By Probyn Gregory)




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