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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Possible for Davis, or for anyone?

Rob Deer had a .179/.314/.386 season.   Adam Dunn has a .204/.333/.468 season.   Chris Carter had a .199/.307/.423 season.   So I think it’s theoretically possible to have a line like .189/.318/.432 even over a full year.   Do I think Davis will do that?   No, not really.    

Joe Mauer last year: 

.282 .351 .379

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16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Possible for Davis, or for anyone?

Rob Deer had a .179/.314/.386 season.   Adam Dunn has a .204/.333/.468 season.   Chris Carter had a .199/.307/.423 season.   So I think it’s theoretically possible to have a line like .189/.318/.432 even over a full year.   Do I think Davis will do that?   No, not really.    

Honestly, it's shocking that there are such comps. I don't know how he could maintain a .129 BA/OBP spread with such poor contact.

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

That was Chris Davis’ line this spring.    Would you be happy if he managed that in the regular season?    As a reminder:

2018: .168/.243/.296

2017: .215/.309/.423

2014: .196/.300/.404

 

I don’t know 

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

That was Chris Davis’ line this spring.    Would you be happy if he managed that in the regular season?    As a reminder:

2018: .168/.243/.296

2017: .215/.309/.423

2014: .196/.300/.404

 

I’m hoping he doesn’t get enough at bats to qualify.

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26 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Possible for Davis, or for anyone?

Rob Deer had a .179/.314/.386 season.   Adam Dunn has a .204/.333/.468 season.   Chris Carter had a .199/.307/.423 season.   So I think it’s theoretically possible to have a line like .189/.318/.432 even over a full year.   Do I think Davis will do that?   No, not really.    

Davis spring training was essentially the same as his 2017. I think that's a good realistic goal.

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The bar is so low its incredible what we accept from a guy making that kind of money.I say if he doesn't hit by June, Id release him.Eat the money.

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

That was Chris Davis’ line this spring.    Would you be happy if he managed that in the regular season?    As a reminder:

2018: .168/.243/.296

2017: .215/.309/.423

2014: .196/.300/.404

 

I'd want him released. 

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No.  I don't want hope, I want clarity.  Anything that's not a definitive improvement is an invitation to prolong the experiment.  2019 needs to be decision time.

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Once a couple of the young prospect outfielders and Mountcastle come up he would have to go. Whether or not he is blocking someone is more important than the specific numbers.

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There are only two good options for Davis.

He flatlines again and forces the O's to cut bait. Or he mashes for half a season at an .800+ OPS and Elias is able to move him to a surprise contender + a big chunk of salary for a couple of B prospects. Let's call those odds 99:1.

Anything in between just drags this stoopid situation out longer.

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41 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

The bar is so low its incredible what we accept from a guy making that kind of money.I say if he doesn't hit by June, Id release him.Eat the money.

It’s not a matter of “accepting” it, exactly.   He’s going to produce whatever he’s going to produce, and what we’re paying him won’t change that.    So while I don’t think .189/.318/.432 would be “acceptable” production from a guy making $23 mm/yr, I’d rather have that than what we got from Davis last year, or what we got from him in 2014 or 2017 for that matter.    Whether I’d keep him on the roster for that depends on what my cheap alternatives are.   

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I would take a .750 OPS and decent defense.

I realize it may prevent the organization from releasing him, but really, I would rather have him perform better. He's vilified around here, but I believe he is a decent human being and I don't wish failure on him. His level of record-setting underperformance has to be impossibly tough to deal with. 

 

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My bar for whether I’d be happy with whatever he does is not a number per se. It’s really about how frustrated I am as the season goes on. I’d take a quiet .300 OBP over a .320 OBP that too often costs us in big situations.

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