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5 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

Did they do that with Cobb last year?

No but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t have. Perhaps Cobb told them he had been pitching and was ready. Obviously he wasn’t but that’s another issue.

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

You have to take into account that he’s been pitching in a pitcher’s ballpark the last two years.   ERA+ of 93 and 89 those two years.    For an Orioles pitcher, that translates to about 4.75 ERA.    If we got anything below 5.00 from him, I’d be pleased.     As we found out last year with Cobb, it’s not easy to miss a big chunk of spring training and then pitch well in the majors.   

I agree ... I’d be delighted if he was a 4 ERA pitcher. I was responding to @Beef Supreme‘s post about him being a 5th starter best case. 

 

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22 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Seriously? He's started 90 games over the last three years and has an ERA around 4.00 over that span. He's likely to be the 2nd best starting pitcher on the team and would be no worst than a 4th On most teams.

Then teams should have been lined up to sign him. Interest was limited to the three of the very worst MLB teams - Toronto, Texas and Baltimore. 

Thus, Straily is not even a #5 on "most teams." 

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7 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

I agree ... I’d be delighted if he was a 4 ERA pitcher. I was responding to @Beef Supreme‘s post about him being a 5th starter best case. 

 

I am not sad that they signed him. It's fine. I won't be happy or sad if he pitches to a 4.00 ERA or a 5.00. 

I will be happy if they trade him for something of value. But I doubt they would get much in terms of value in a July trade. He's just a placeholder, to me, and his stats this season mean little in my eyes. 

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7 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

Then teams should have been lined up to sign him. Interest was limited to the three of the very worst MLB teams - Toronto, Texas and Baltimore. 

Thus, Straily is not even a #5 on "most teams." 

Just because only 3 teams were interested in a cut at the end of spring training doesn't confirm your theory. A number of things play into the decision making  at this point in the season in no particular order....teams filled holes already, wait period for him to clear waivers,  ramp up time due to inactivity, adding payroll, and the luxury tax threshold. I won't analyze every teams circumstances to try to figure it out. But other factors played a role. 

 

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I sort of hope Straily doesn’t start games for us because that means Hess and Means are holding down rotation spots. 

It looks like the Karns signing was a good one. Ease him back in a relief role this year, offer him arb at the end of the year, and he should be a SP for us next season. 

I don’t think Straily should be handed a spot in the rotation, but I also don’t think we have to worry too much about him getting starts with the way our starters have been getting pounded. 

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7 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I sort of hope Straily doesn’t start games for us because that means Hess and Means are holding down rotation spots. 

It looks like the Karns signing was a good one. Ease him back in a relief role this year, offer him arb at the end of the year, and he should be a SP for us next season. 

I don’t think Straily should be handed a spot in the rotation, but I also don’t think we have to worry too much about him getting starts with the way our starters have been getting pounded. 

One rookie starter at a time is enough.Means can do long relief until Cobb is dealt.

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3 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

One rookie starter at a time is enough.Means can do long relief until Cobb is dealt.

Once Straily and Means establish themselves in the rotation, Bundy can move to the bullpen. Maybe he's be better in one or two inning doses if he knew that was all he had to do.

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Other than a series with BOS, I think we’ll see our pitching staff settle down. Bundy included. We face some light hitting teams through April. 

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15 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Just because only 3 teams were interested in a cut at the end of spring training doesn't confirm your theory. A number of things play into the decision making  at this point in the season in no particular order....teams filled holes already, wait period for him to clear waivers,  ramp up time due to inactivity, adding payroll, and the luxury tax threshold. I won't analyze every teams circumstances to try to figure it out. But other factors played a role. 

 

That's a fair assessment.

But there is no way I am buying into any theory that posits that Dan Straily has a "solid #3" starter the past few years. I think the "other factor" that played a role was Straily's mediocrity. :-)

PS I don't think any team was hindered from signing Straily because of luxury taxes...

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3 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

That's a fair assessment.

But there is no way I am buying into any theory that posits that Dan Straily has a "solid #3" starter the past few years. I think the "other factor" that played a role was Straily's mediocrity. 🙂

PS I don't think any team was hindered from signing Straily because of luxury taxes...

Thanks! We can agree to disagree. But the Orioles competitive teams the few years would've gladly taken Straily and put him in the middle of their rotation. And they would've been better off for it. For his career he's averaged 33 starts at a 4.28 ERA. That's a number 3 for most teams! 

For the Orioles you'd be hard pressed to find more than 1 starter on the team who was better.

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1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

Thanks! We can agree to disagree. But the Orioles competitive teams the few years would've gladly taken Straily and put him in the middle of their rotation. And they would've been better off for it. For his career he's averaged 33 starts at a 4.28 ERA. That's a number 3 for most teams! 

For the Orioles you'd be hard pressed to find more than 1 starter on the team who was better.

But considering the current season, he wasn't ready at all in that relief appearance. Who knows how long it will take someone who has such middling "stuff."

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12 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

Once Straily and Means establish themselves in the rotation, Bundy can move to the bullpen. Maybe he's be better in one or two inning doses if he knew that was all he had to do.

Are you actually expecting that to happen within the next month?

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