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6 hours ago, TINSTAAPP said:

They're severely lacking in good position player prospects though. There's Rutschman and then a steep drop-off after that. Guys like Mountcastle and Hays have some glaring weaknesses and Diaz only has a .240 batting average at AA since he was traded to the Orioles. 

True, I was speaking more from a pitching standpoint. I love that McCoy and Adam Hall are having good years.

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17 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Chalk another one up for Luke.  He's been high on Baumann right from the start this season.  Very impressive start tonight, statistically!  

While you're right, even Luke isn't predicting Ace starter from this kid. Nice outings though, for sure.

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19 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

While you're right, even Luke isn't predicting Ace starter from this kid. Nice outings though, for sure.

That’s because almost no one is an ace, maybe three future aces in all of the minors and those are going to be ceiling-hitters, no one projects as an ace just like no one projects as an 80.

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4 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

That’s because almost no one is an ace, maybe three future aces in all of the minors and those are going to be ceiling-hitters, no one projects as an ace just like no one projects as an 80.

David Price?   Gerritt Cole?

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I wasn’t seriously prospecting at the time but Cole was considered as having a #1/2 ceiling some, true ace ceiling by others (they are different things). So that wasn’t his projection but his ceiling.

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16 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

That’s because almost no one is an ace, maybe three future aces in all of the minors and those are going to be ceiling-hitters, no one projects as an ace just like no one projects as an 80.

I read this post below as you’re squinting to see a starter’s profile. Did I misunderstand?

On 6/28/2019 at 10:05 AM, Luke-OH said:

You have to squint a little, but you can see it. His changeup is just a show me pitch right now and at his age it's not likely the pitch takes a significant step forward (although not impossible, see: Means, John). His fastball command has improved, but is still probably just fringe average. The curveball has improved in quality if not consistency, that's going to be the pitch that will make or break him as a starter. He needs the pitch for lefties and currently it's not consistent enough. The improvement in the pitch (it appears he's throwing it differently) makes me hopeful the improved feel will come. I think the profile is 4/5 SP or set-up man. With a chance for mid rotation if everything works out and a middle relief floor if the fastball command becomes limiting. 

Last year it was a middle relief profile for me with some risk of not getting there. So huge improvement, full grade. 

Edit: To list the improvements, 3-4 ticks on the fastball and better ride/usage (full grade), half a grade command, half a grade on the slider and curveball (would be a full grade for the curve if it was more consistent)

 

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3 hours ago, LookinUp said:

I read this post below as you’re squinting to see a starter’s profile. Did I misunderstand?

 

No, the ace comment is basically just saying that calling any prospect an ace is usually irresponsible.

This is how I see Baumann.

#3 SP ceiling if command ticks up another half grade and either the changeup improves considerably or the command of the curveball improves considerably.

My projection is a 50, which is a huge jump for him. That’s #4/high end #5 or a high end set up reliever. I think the high end relief is probably a better fit/more likely with no further development of the Change or curve.

The floor is middle relief if command is exposed against major league bats. 

 

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Mike Baumann is thru 8 IP with his no-hitter. He hit 97 MPH in the 8th inning and using a 90-91 slider to dominate. He has 8 Ks thru 8 IP. This is a breakout type of performance.

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Just now, Tony-OH said:

Mike Baumann is thru 8 IP with his no-hitter. He hit 97 MPH in the 8th inning and using a 90-91 slider to dominate. He has 8 Ks thru 8 IP. This is a breakout type of performance.

April 30th - he pitched 6.2 no hit innings on just 87 pitches, 12 K's.

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I was wondering if anyone had posted on him yet.

That sounds like ace stuff to me.

It looks like he could move up to AAA with the rest of the cavalry next spring.

 

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