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I hope the apparently close relationship between the front offices leads to a fruitful Givens trade - here is a contender's bullpen that's had a raft of injuries.

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30 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I'm willing to give Elias a little benefit of the doubt.   He's made some decent waiver pickups who have helped the team (Ruiz, Alberto, Severino).   He's gotten guys cheaply who have contributed at least a little (Broxton, Armstrong).

No, don't have high expectations for the guy.   But if we ARE able to trade a starter such as Cashner, we are going to have to have SOMEONE pitch the innings the rest of the season, and it's obvious Elias isn't going to rush anyone he considers a real prospect.

Good take.  We're pretty much in the expansion team portion of this rebuild.  Our near "MLB ready" prospects have either flopped, or been injured.  It's best to make sure they are healthy and productive in AAA.  No reason to burn any service time before September, at the earliest.  Just fill the team out with guys from other orgs. that might "need a chance".  Let's see what they can do.  

I have no idea what the Phillies are going to do with this int'l slot.  It is encouraging that Elias has some solid relationships with other GMs.  That alone may be the positive to take away from this.  The Phils bascially gave us this guy.  

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This is a move to get more depth.  I think people are missing why they made this move. They have 40 man on the roster right now and Trumbo has to come off the 60 man Dl in the next week, that means someone is going to have to come off the 40 man and good chance this is a pitcher.  My guess is that Rogers is taken off the 40 man and this gives them a back up plan for another starter if someone claims him and we lose him to another team.   He fills in at Rogers spot in AAA and doesn't take up a spot on the 40 man.  Basically they are trading Rogers for him in case someone claims him.  

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4 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

This is a move to get more depth.  I think people are missing why they made this move. They have 40 man on the roster right now and Trumbo has to come off the 60 man Dl in the next week, that means someone is going to have to come off the 40 man and good chance this is a pitcher.  My guess is that Rogers is taken off the 40 man and this gives them a back up plan for another starter if someone claims him and we lose him to another team.   He fills in at Rogers spot in AAA and doesn't take up a spot on the 40 man.  Basically they are trading Rogers for him in case someone claims him.  

My guess is that Bundy will be traded for a pretty good prospect in the next couple of weeks and we'll need a starter.

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9 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

My guess is that Bundy will be traded for a pretty good prospect in the next couple of weeks and we'll need a starter.

Who wants Bundy enough to give anything meaningful for him?

Aside from Seattle, haha

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1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Good take.  We're pretty much in the expansion team portion of this rebuild.  Our near "MLB ready" prospects have either flopped, or been injured.  It's best to make sure they are healthy and productive in AAA.  No reason to burn any service time before September, at the earliest.  Just fill the team out with guys from other orgs. that might "need a chance".  Let's see what they can do.  

I have no idea what the Phillies are going to do with this int'l slot.  It is encouraging that Elias has some solid relationships with other GMs.  That alone may be the positive to take away from this.  The Phils bascially gave us this guy.  

The cost of this acquisition was so little and so meaningless that it makes me wonder if there is an actual rule in the rulebook saying that you cannot give away a player for nothing. The international signing period resets in about two weeks. Slot money at this time is less than useless.

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13 minutes ago, Philip said:

Who wants Bundy enough to give anything meaningful for him?

Aside from Seattle, haha

Any team looking for a pitcher with a few years experience who has turned his season around and pitched well his last seven outings.

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7 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Any team looking for a pitcher with a few years experience who has turned his season around and pitched well his last seven outings.

 Well, we shall see. If I am the GM of a continuing team, I see several red flags in Bundy. However, I would be happy to move him if we can get something in return. The pitching in Texas has seen a resurgence, and in Minnesota as well. Does Tampa need anything? Can we get anything from NY?

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Just now, Tx Oriole said:

I just wonder why? 

We have the worst pitching in MLB history, and apparently Philly gave us a free player.  We don't have to dig too deep on this one.  AAA depth.  

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3 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

I just wonder why? 

I didn’t realize the Orioles needed help in AAA rotation. 

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29 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Any team looking for a pitcher with a few years experience who has turned his season around and pitched well his last seven outings.

Thing is, you can find stretches of 7-10 outings each of the last two years where Bundy was very good.   All in the first half of the season, though.   I think GM’s won’t bite on Bundy unless he’s pitched well for a longer period, right up to the trade deadline.   

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Thing is, you can find stretches of 7-10 outings each of the last two years where Bundy was very good.   All in the first half of the season, though.   I think GM’s won’t bite on Bundy unless he’s pitched well for a longer period, right up to the trade deadline.   

Some people feel our talent is so valuable, just not valuable enough to keep. :)

Bundy is like the little girls with the girls, when she is on, she is sooo fine. :)

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7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Thing is, you can find stretches of 7-10 outings each of the last two years where Bundy was very good.   All in the first half of the season, though.   I think GM’s won’t bite on Bundy unless he’s pitched well for a longer period, right up to the trade deadline.   

I think Bundy has made adjustments, and has finally been forced to acknowledge the fact that he is no longer a power pitcher.

He's still learning how to be a finesse pitcher and there's no guarantee he'll wind up being a good one for a long time.

But I think he's on the right track to get the most out of what his arm has can do.   I think he's gotten good coaching and is trying to implement what they ask him to do.

It may take a year or two before we know how good Bundy 2.0 is going to be, but at least he has put Bundy 1.0 behind him.

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39 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Thing is, you can find stretches of 7-10 outings each of the last two years where Bundy was very good.   All in the first half of the season, though.   I think GM’s won’t bite on Bundy unless he’s pitched well for a longer period, right up to the trade deadline.   

Bundy has bee decent most of his career as a starter not just little 7-10 outings.

This is the half of Bundy's as a starter.

2016 post all star 4.52 ERA 1.30 Whip 9.0K per 9ip

2017 pre all star 4.33 ERA 1.25 Whip 7.8 k per 9ip

2017 post all star 4.09 ERA 1.11 Whip 10 k per 9 ip

2018 Pre all star 4.35 ERA 1.31 Whip  9.2 K per 9 ip

2018 Post all star 7.11 ERA 1.58 Whip 8.9 k per 9 ip

What is the outlier of those pre post all stars over the last 2 and a half years.  

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