Pickles

That's fine. That's a take with the appropriate amount of subtlety. The silly rhetorical questions, "How can he learn to hit ML pitching in AAA?" devised to produce a foregone conclusion have no such subtlety.

Because the claim is he can't learn anything in AAA. That's a stupid claim- about Holliday or anyone else for that matter.

This has nothing to do with Holliday. I took issue with the idea that guys can't learn and improve at AAA. I'm not surprised you can't see the difference.

There are no mechanical aspects to hitting?

Exactly. It's such a moronic talking point. If you can't learn and improve in AAA, why does it even exist then?

Well, I for one am very happy that we have Burnes. And I'm glad Elias runs this organization and not the consensus of this board.

Frobby's always talking about signing for things in blood. LOL.

It was still too much.

I meant to say Holliday in my prior post BTW. You can't just give a cursory node to bad isn't equal, but still bad' bad. Those gradations of bad mean quite a lot in a case like this imo. Cowser looked the worst out of all of them when he first came up, and he still was a significant level upon what Holliday has done so far. Go look at the batted ball stats posted above. They're awful. They make Hays, who has been terrible this season, look like Babe Ruth. Holliday is striking out over 50% of the time, and he's hit like one ball well in 30+ PAs. Cowser was at least walking last season. Now, I'm not sending him down yet- although he wouldn't be up yet either if I was in control. But I said a few days ago I'd give him another 25-50 PAs before I sent him down, if he shows no improvement. We're only like 8 Abs into that, but he hasn't shown any improvement either.

Remember when the majority of the board didn't want to do that, but just a few weeks later, like gambling addicts, most of the board wanted to do just that?

Go look at their walk rate and K rate while you're at it.

Well is playing poorly playing poorly or are there levels to it? Because Gunnar struggled in ways none of the others did, and you can include Cowser on that list.

That doesn't match the eye test of anybody who has watched him.

No, he hasn't.

Adley and Gunnar had some initial struggles. They didn't strike out 50% of their at bats and look bad in the field simultaneously. It's disingenuous to compare their struggles with Holliday's.