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  1. I can only imagine what this thread would have been like if PA sold in 2016-2018. This reaction is almost mute compared to what it would have been back then, IMO.
  2. I have found myself listening to past quotes from O's leadership and feeling stupid I didn't know what they were going to do in the moment. I think they're actually incredibly consistent, but we tend to talk ourselves into other possibilities. That said, Elias opened the door for Holliday in the fan's eyes even if it wasn't quite as open as we hoped. This was reminiscent of "lift off." Regardless of his exact quotes or his exact meaning, he's said a couple of things and then lost control of the narrative.
  3. Interesting, at least to me, that Kjerstad is listed only as an OF, not an INF/OF.
  4. His handlers will almost certainly dedicate the opening of the press conference to the Key bridge, but I agree, he better be careful. He shouldn't be standing up there with a new owner like Youngkin did with Leonsis in Virginia. That might have been appropriate, but not after yesterday.
  5. We'll never know, but I think this is at least partially because they were in the process of selling the team. I don't think the principals in a deal like that want the numbers changing significantly within a certain period. Again, I'm not expert, but that's my assumption. The Commanders did the same thing last year. Funny thing is that you could be 100% right about JA, but the circumstances of his tenure might go down as the most successful controlling owner (or whatever his title was) maybe ever (or certainly one of the best). That could be true regardless of his likeability, greed, persona, etc.
  6. I'm not looking to pick a fight with you, but I just disagree. This guy started a thread about it being a good day for the O's (referring to new ownership) and the first 4 replies were calling out his OP. I know it wasn't a perfect OP, but I get him having a reaction to that and I highly doubt that he literally meant to characterize this entire board as PA apologists. That was my read on it at least.
  7. Well, if you pick the right start/end date, they were the winningest team in baseball over like a 4 year period. Still, all I'm saying is that success moderated the negativity. I'm certainly not here to defend PAs ownership.
  8. Whether he was lucky or good, JA's complete rebuild has set this team up fabulously. I know some wanted spending sooner, and just more in general, but it's inarguable that the new ownership is inheriting a near-perfect situation. He has payroll flexibility, player assets, systems in place throughout the minors, a well-functioning international program and a team coming off a 101 win season. John Angelos deserves a ton of credit for that, even if Elias is the person who led the way.
  9. The Buck Showalter years definitely moderated the negativity around his ownership. It was really bad going into those years.
  10. 1. He didn't know he was going #1 overall. He likely negotiated that pre-draft from his perceived bargaining position. 2. Yes, he can still win the ROY award. Now if the O's keep him down for a significant amount of time, that would change.
  11. Lol. Isn't this what you're doing?
  12. You're reading it as he's open to an extension, which is why you think it's a positive. I'm not reading it that way at all. I see a guy who understands what happened probably happened because he didn't have an extension, and he's fine with that. We have no idea how new ownership will handle things, but I'd be much more positive about the likelihood of Holliday signing an extension if he was on the opening day roster. At least then I could make up tea leaves that they've had preliminary talks that give the O's some comfort. But he's not, so I read it as he's not indicating a willingness to re-sign anytime soon. And all of that is speculation.
  13. This board can be such a wet blanket. If I have a nit to pick with the OP, it's the thread title. It should have been something like "O's get new ownership today, it's a great day to be an O's fan" or something like that. This is a day we've been waiting on for 2 decades. I'm actually a big fan of what John Angelos did here, but his way will only work during a rebuild. Today should be a joyous day. There's nothing wrong with rejoicing.
  14. I 100% disagree with this point. If they asked me about Jackson Holliday being up, I'd probably say exactly what Matt Holliday said. If he was already signed, he'd probably be up, but he isn't, so he's not. Just because Matt is the source doesn't mean there's a hidden meaning that he wants to extend. It's just an objective assessment of the system baseball has in place. Nothing more. Nothing less.
  15. I've seen people predict that Elias gets the President title and she gets the GM title. Honestly, I think Elias has built a juggernaut front office just like he has young talent. The top 3 are well known, but I bet they'll be fine if one or two of the top 3 leave. That said, I obviously hope Elias remains here for a long time to steer the ship.
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