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    If we are going to go by how a team got the QB rather than where he was picked, then lets throw Vick into the equation. The two top MVP candidates didn't cost their team much at all.

    Now Vince Young could be available for little and he was one of the top QB's this year and has lots of talent, but obviously has other issues.

    But sure, I mostly agree with what you are saying.

    BTW, Favre was picked 33rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbird View Post
    If I'm the Skins or another team without a franchise QB I'm looking for one every year. You just can't be consistently good in this league without a franchise QB. If there is a guy out on the trade market or entering the draft that I deem a potential franchise QB I would try to make a play for him every time. I might not be able to make it happen but I would try. I would never say wait til next year.
    I think you are misunderstanding my position if you think I'm just saying wait til next year. I'm saying look at the options and don't draft a QB really high or trade a lot for one simply because of the current lack of a franchise QB. Get a QB if you really believe in him and are comfortable with the price. If not, don't say "well we need to get a QB so we'll get this guy anyway." I'd rather go into next year with Grossman or Beck or Tavaris Jackson or whoever than do that while at the same time improving the roster so the possible franchise QB has a better supporting cast when he takes over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mweb View Post
    I think you are misunderstanding my position if you think I'm just saying wait til next year. I'm saying look at the options and don't draft a QB really high or trade a lot for one simply because of the current lack of a franchise QB. Get a QB if you really believe in him and are comfortable with the price. If not, don't say "well we need to get a QB so we'll get this guy anyway." I'd rather go into next year with Grossman or Beck or Tavaris Jackson or whoever than do that while at the same time improving the roster so the possible franchise QB has a better supporting cast when he takes over.
    Obviously, how high you think of a guy and how much you are willing to "pay" plays a role. Just take 3 players for example this year. Luck, Mallet, Locker. Lets say I think they all have franchise QB potential but overall they are graded as follow:

    Luck- #1 overall.... the best QB prospect in a long time
    Mallet- #15 overall.....may take awhile but very good potential ....say I compare him to a Cutler
    Locker-30th overall....risky, but a lot of skills

    -With Luck, I would be willing to give up a boatload. Give the Panthers the house.

    -With Mallet, if there is chatter he might go in the top 10 and there are a lot of other prospects I like that are still going to be on the board I probably let him go. I wouldn't make a move up for him. However, if he gets to #10 I would take him. A top #15 prospect overall and the need for a franchise QB is enough for me to reach slightly to take him.

    -With Locker, I would definitely try to move down from #10 or trade back up from the 2nd round to get him. I certainly wouldn't use a top 10 pick on the player I have rated 30th overall even if it's someone I think can be my franchise QB.


    I guess what I'm saying is if I have a QB graded as a franchise QB I'm going to make a play for him. Obviously, there are a lot of variables that occur leading up to the draft and on draft day that determine who and how you go about trying to acquire one of but I would definitely try.
    Last edited by ccbird; 01-06-2011 at 01:04 AM.

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    Luck is returning to school. That throws a wrench in everything.

    http://twitter.com/#!/schadjoe/statu...99111867686912

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTribe View Post
    Luck is returning to school. That throws a wrench in everything.

    http://twitter.com/#!/schadjoe/statu...99111867686912
    WOW!

    How much money is he leaving on the table? What risk?!?!?!

    I wonder if the new CBA will limit the 2012 draft signings???

    I don't understand this at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTribe View Post
    Luck is returning to school. That throws a wrench in everything.

    http://twitter.com/#!/schadjoe/statu...99111867686912
    I actually suspected he might be, as soon as Carolina said they weren't interested in Harbaugh as coach but they were 100% taking Luck and wouldn't trade the pick.

    Guess he just doesn't want to play in CAR, now we just need to tank next season. (jk...well sorta).

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