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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony-OH View Post
    I read that as, Esposito may finally coming to the realization that he's not going to get the money he gave up out of high school and the chances of him doing it next year as a senior sign are pretty remote. I hope the guy comes to his senses because I'd like to see him in the system, but if not, this will be on the player, not the Orioles.
    Agreed. Joe Jordan has proven to be pretty good at these kinds of standoffs, e.g. Givens. Of course, if Esposito signs, I'm hoping he'll actually perform well, unlike Givens who washed out at Delmarva and is putting up mediocre numbers at Aberdeen at age 21.

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    while Esposito might very likely not get even close to 1.5M he was offered in HS, his education at Vanderbilt(excellent school) is easily worth a few hundred K (and more over a lifetime), so while it might suck for him, it actually not a bad deal for him to sign for lower in 2011, if that's what they have in mind... Plus even MLB draftees bonuses get taxed alot and id bet a lot of HS draftees who go straight PRO spend most if not all of it at age 18 on stupid things..


    Anyway it sounds like Joe Jordan is holding on slot or a tad above slot and perhaps if Esposito (and his agent...is Boras still his agent now that he's not in it for lots of $$$?) doesnt lower his expectation Joe Jordan might drop the offer completely and Esposito might go back to Vanderbilt for a senior year and try it out again (might not be of much help)

    It sounds like a lot of people don't like it when a MLB team draft a college kid who appears to be very solid with a lot of potential upside but not a sure superstar talent. The truth is none of these draftees are a lock to contribute much to Orioles at the majors level at all except for maybe Bundy. I think Esposito was a very good pick but it's too bad Joe Jordan and Esposito apparently have what sounds like a pretty big difference in opinion at this point...Orioles farm system very much need some defenders


    a draftee is gonna need $ while in the minor leagues because the minors pay like crap
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    Honestly, looking at the college crop I've seen on the circuit this summer, Esposito might not have much trouble going in the 1st Round next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stotle View Post
    Honestly, looking at the college crop I've seen on the circuit this summer, Esposito might not have much trouble going in the 1st Round next year.
    If that's true, that'd be a great option for him. But there's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of pressure for him to perform very well senior year at Vanderbilt. If he impresses like he did sophomore yr then maybe he's got a shot, but as others have said he loses leverage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stotle View Post
    Honestly, looking at the college crop I've seen on the circuit this summer, Esposito might not have much trouble going in the 1st Round next year.
    As a fourth year senior and hard slotting likely in place how high in the first round would he have to go to make the 1.5 million he declined out of HS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Can_of_corn View Post
    As a fourth year senior and hard slotting likely in place how high in the first round would he have to go to make the 1.5 million he declined out of HS?
    Mid-1st. Could still get seven figures in the back half of the round.

    Thus far, the bar for "best college bat" is set pretty darn low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyrozay View Post
    If that's true, that'd be a great option for him. But there's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of pressure for him to perform very well senior year at Vanderbilt. If he impresses like he did sophomore yr then maybe he's got a shot, but as others have said he loses leverage
    He'd have no leverage. The same, with a solid season he could be appealing to a club that favors college position players early on. This year Cory Spangenberg received about $1.8 million as a late-1st/supp-1st talent that got nabbed early by a team with an unprotected pick (Padres).

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    what is the 2011 slot amount for someone drafted 64th (where he was drafted in the 2nd round)? Is it like 500-700K im guessing? I know someone stated earlier that historically only 34% of players drafted 64th play in the Majors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stotle View Post
    Mid-1st. Could still get seven figures in the back half of the round.

    Thus far, the bar for "best college bat" is set pretty darn low.
    Figures when we finally look to get a pick up in the top 3 that we get the worst crop of college bats...

    So it sounds like no major difference maker bat in the 2012 draft either.

    That will likely make 5 drafts straight since Wieters in 2007 where the O's haven't taken a polished college bat in the first round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyrozay View Post
    I know someone stated earlier that historically only 34% of players drafted 64th play in the Majors
    Maybe we shouldn't sign any of our draftees then since there's a good chance they won't play in the majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyrozay View Post
    what is the 2011 slot amount for someone drafted 64th (where he was drafted in the 2nd round)? Is it like 500-700K im guessing? I know someone stated earlier that historically only 34% of players drafted 64th play in the Majors
    Slot should be around $575K for Espo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTrea81 View Post
    Figures when we finally look to get a pick up in the top 3 that we get the worst crop of college bats...

    So it sounds like no major difference maker bat in the 2012 draft either.

    That will likely make 5 drafts straight since Wieters in 2007 where the O's haven't taken a polished college bat in the first round.
    Some good HS bats. Still time plenty of time for college bats to emerge.

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    do you think he gets 700K maybe?????? he might have been thinking 1M at first

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    Quote Originally Posted by weams View Post
    I think you are right, and he will be a Oriole by Saturday.
    is he going to sign soon? i think they are making some progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyrozay View Post
    is he going to sign soon? i think they are making some progress
    Hey, I thought it would be last weekend. Have no idea.

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