12th Round - Jason Coats - OF -Texas Christian University

[Tony-OH]

Do you know how much Baltimore was offering up? As crappy as this college crop looks right now, I'd be surprised if he couldn't get $180K with a solid season (around 4th Round slot). Of course, if he repeats his 2010 he'll be signing for very little. If he swings it like he did last summer and this summer, he could really shoot up draft boards. I am sure when I line up a follow list he'll be a top 3 rounds guy for me (of course I liked him as a 2nd Rdr last year).

No, I didn't ask how much their offer was but Joe said it had nothing to do with the money, he was fine with the money, this was about his mother wanting him to finish college. I guess not every 21-year old is able to make up his own mind, but apparently he wanted to play, but differed to his mother. To each is own, but when I was 21-year old, I did what I wanted to do, not what my parents wanted me to do. I think that turned the Orioles off a bit, especially after they had reached a deal only to be told that his mother nixed it because she wanted him to go back to college.

As a 22-year old senior sign, he better have a fantastic season to get as much money as he was probably offered. Joe really liked his bat as well, so I imagine he was offered a nice chunk of change.

[Jammer7]

Found out some interesting things on the Coats situation. First off, Jordan really liked Coats bat and had an agreement with him. From all indications, Coats was ready to go play baseball and wanted to go pro. Apparently though his mother had other plans. She wanted him to finish school and apparently in the Coats household, what momma wants is what momma gets. Coats decided to honor his mother's wishes and go back to school. There may have been a change of heart from the Coats side but by that point, the Orioles had decided to move on. I can respect a kid for wanting to honor his mother's wishes, and perhaps in his case finishing his degree is the right move, but the money he was going to get from the Orioles would have certainly enabled him to complete his degree and he most likely will lose money as a 22-year old senior sign next year.

Wow! Too bad it didn't work out. I found the bolded part interesting.

[Frobby]

To each is own, but when I was 21-year old, I did what I wanted to do, not what my parents wanted me to do.

I know my parents' wishes were pretty instrumental in my decision to stay in school and pass up pro ball. That, and the fact that I hit about .175 as a 7th grader in Little League.

[NCRaven]

Actually, there's something to be said for a young man that honors his parents wishes, even though he might have wanted something else. There are a lot worse decisions that I've seen young athletes make over the past few years.

[Stotle]

No, I didn't ask how much their offer was but Joe said it had nothing to do with the money, he was fine with the money, this was about his mother wanting him to finish college. I guess not every 21-year old is able to make up his own mind, but apparently he wanted to play, but differed to his mother. To each is own, but when I was 21-year old, I did what I wanted to do, not what my parents wanted me to do. I think that turned the Orioles off a bit, especially after they had reached a deal only to be told that his mother nixed it because she wanted him to go back to college.

As a 22-year old senior sign, he better have a fantastic season to get as much money as he was probably offered. Joe really liked his bat as well, so I imagine he was offered a nice chunk of change.

I love his bat as well -- would have put in for 2nd Rd money. I think he gets it, or close, if he has a strong year. Can't repeat 2010, though.

[Tony-OH]

I love his bat as well -- would have put in for 2nd Rd money. I think he gets it, or close, if he has a strong year. Can't repeat 2010, though.

I don't know, maybe. I don't know the numbers, but how many seniors were drafted in the first two rounds of the draft over the last five years. I bet it's not too many. Even if he's drafted in the 2nd round due to his bat, I bet he'll be lucky to get slot. He'll have absolutely no leverage at all. It'll be interesting to see how it goes next year.

[Stotle]

I don't know, maybe. I don't know the numbers, but how many seniors were drafted in the first two rounds of the draft over the last five years. I bet it's not too many. Even if he's drafted in the 2nd round due to his bat, I bet he'll be lucky to get slot. He'll have absolutely no leverage at all. It'll be interesting to see how it goes next year.

Agree. But, to be fair, there aren't many early round quality seniors in general. So it's not really fair to compare him to a typical 11-30 Rd junior that is selected as kind of an afterthought. My guess would be that most scouting departments thought he'd neglect to sign if he dropped out of the first three rounds. Maybe I'm way off. In any event, he'll need to produce if he wants to get drafted in the first ten rounds in 2012. He had about as impressive a summer as you can have last year and negated a lot of it with his spring.

[SrMeowMeow]

Gotta say, I wish we'd got him. Would have iced a surprisingly acceptable draft.

[LookinUp]

There may have been a change of heart from the Coats side but by that point, the Orioles had decided to move on.

I'm trying to understand in what world it would make sense to move on if the kid changed his mind. Is it a bad precedent to set? I suppose it's possible the O's said we'll offer you x, but that money will go to someone else if you don't take it and the offer will be rescinded. In that case they'd be caving on their word in negotiations and setting a bad precedent.

I'm torn on this. If the kid would take what we offered him, we should have let him. Maybe I'm off base here.