Pro Wrestling Thread

[Skeletor]

I would like to add that I personally believe that Pro Wrestling/Entertainment will begin a steady decline in ratings and popularity. I think that the glory days have come and gone, although I think it'll remain popular enough to remain solid for another decade or so, before an eventual fade into 'relative' obscurity.

Anyone getting SS tomorrow? I'm not, just curious.

Pro wrestling sucks now, without a doubt. But that's wrestling for you. It may well drop into irrelevance, but it will bounce back. Someone will come up with an idea and someone will have the balls to implement it and wrestling will make a comeback.

[Sports Guy]

I would like to add that I personally believe that Pro Wrestling/Entertainment will begin a steady decline in ratings and popularity. I think that the glory days have come and gone, although I think it'll remain popular enough to remain solid for another decade or so, before an eventual fade into 'relative' obscurity.

Anyone getting SS tomorrow? I'm not, just curious.

I'm not..I usually like to get the bigger PPVs but haven't recently because of the decline of the product. I still watch Raw but I just can't justify spending the 50 bucks on the PPVs.

[ccbird]

I would like to add that I personally believe that Pro Wrestling/Entertainment will begin a steady decline in ratings and popularity. I think that the glory days have come and gone, although I think it'll remain popular enough to remain solid for another decade or so, before an eventual fade into 'relative' obscurity.

Anyone getting SS tomorrow? I'm not, just curious.

Tonights UFCs card was the prime example why Pro Wrestling is in decline. You had all the drama of a wrestling match except it's not scripted. They are really fighting. There will always be a market for pro wrestling and will always have its ups and downs but it'll never reach the level it was in the '80s and '90s.

[Dipper9]

I'm not..I usually like to get the bigger PPVs but haven't recently because of the decline of the product. I still watch Raw but I just can't justify spending the 50 bucks on the PPVs.

I haven't bought a PPV in YEARS. In fact, the last one I have even seen start to finish was Mania 15 when I attended it live in Philly. It sure didn't have that Mania feel that I had expected it to have.

In recent years, I have really tried to get pumped up enough to buy a WrestleMania PPV, but there just hasn't been enough to lore me in. With Rock vs Cena headlining this years, I am intrigued, but they are gonna need more. I'll need Taker in a streak match with some legit chance of losing. I'll need Jericho back (I know, he's me Tex!) in some capacity. I'll need some real good matches to gain my interest. The way the product has been, its just not worth it to fork over that much money for a wrestling PPV where you get many of the same matches on free tv.

The one event that REALLY temps me every year is the Royal Rumble. I love the concept of the match. Its fun. And its usually the one event all year where you really don't know who's gonna win. We'll see if I finally give in to temptation this year? I doubt it, since its playoff football time.

[Greg Pappas]

I haven't bought a PPV in YEARS. In fact, the last one I have even seen start to finish was Mania 15 when I attended it live in Philly. It sure didn't have that Mania feel that I had expected it to have.

In recent years, I have really tried to get pumped up enough to buy a WrestleMania PPV, but there just hasn't been enough to lore me in. With Rock vs Cena headlining this years, I am intrigued, but they are gonna need more. I'll need Taker in a streak match with some legit chance of losing. I'll need Jericho back (I know, he's me Tex!) in some capacity. I'll need some real good matches to gain my interest. The way the product has been, its just not worth it to fork over that much money for a wrestling PPV where you get many of the same matches on free tv.

The one event that REALLY temps me every year is the Royal Rumble. I love the concept of the match. Its fun. And its usually the one event all year where you really don't know who's gonna win. We'll see if I finally give in to temptation this year? I doubt it, since its playoff football time.

Good points all... and I agree about the Rumble. It had been my favorite event from its inception, as the intrigue about who was next out of the curtain and seeing bad guys battling bad guys and good guys battling good guys was so uncommon that it was a blast.

It was a great concept, but as usual, the WWE started screwing around with it and told everyone who'd be #s 1 and 30 in advance... ugh!

[Dipper9]

Good points all... and I agree about the Rumble. It had been my favorite event from its inception, as the intrigue about who was next out of the curtain and seeing bad guys battling bad guys and good guys battling good guys was so uncommon that it was a blast.

It was a great concept, but as usual, the WWE started screwing around with it and told everyone who'd be #s 1 and 30 in advance... ugh!

Best surprise ever....Demolition music starts for entrant #1. He waits in the ring, and....Demolition music starts for his tag partner for entrant number two. They take it to each other, then team up to kick ass! Great stuff.

Of course, that was 20 years ago!

[ShaneDawg85]

I did not watch, but from WWE's website I see that CM Punk won the WWE Championship against Del Rio. I've little knowledge of his career, but from what I've seen so far I'm glad that they finally put the belt back on him, and I hope they do not take it off of him for a few months. Please, WWE, I beg of you, do not let Del Rio near the title again. He is awful on the mic, boring in the ring, and his character is nothing more than a cheap imitation of Ted Dibiase. They have something in Punk, and they've missed the boat on him numerous times the last few months. Please, put this guy over to the roof!

[Dipper9]

I did not watch, but from WWE's website I see that CM Punk won the WWE Championship against Del Rio. I've little knowledge of his career, but from what I've seen so far I'm glad that they finally put the belt back on him, and I hope they do not take it off of him for a few months. Please, WWE, I beg of you, do not let Del Rio near the title again. He is awful on the mic, boring in the ring, and his character is nothing more than a cheap imitation of Ted Dibiase. They have something in Punk, and they've missed the boat on him numerous times the last few months. Please, put this guy over to the roof!

I agree with everything you say here. Punk needs a good long run with the strap. Let him keep beating everyone until the surprise entrant wins the Rumble and stakes claim to that "greatest wrestler in the world" moniker....yeah I'm talking about Jericho, who else? lol

As for Del Rio, he is a good mid level to sometimes main event talent, but I would keep the main belt away from him for a while. His time as champion was awful. They also need to find something to do with Cena for the next 5 months to keep him away from the title picture.

[ShaneDawg85]

I agree with everything you say here. Punk needs a good long run with the strap. Let him keep beating everyone until the surprise entrant wins the Rumble and stakes claim to that "greatest wrestler in the world" moniker....yeah I'm talking about Jericho, who else? lol

As for Del Rio, he is a good mid level to sometimes main event talent, but I would keep the main belt away from him for a while. His time as champion was awful. They also need to find something to do with Cena for the next 5 months to keep him away from the title picture.

The only way to make the buzz for Cena vs. Rock at Mania is to have Cena holding the title. Unless Rock commits to being with the company for a year or two, which I don't think he has or don't think he will, such a thing won't happen. But, even the prospect of Rock winning the gold at Mania, even if it means Cena winning it yet again, would definitely make more casual fans that aren't smart enough to know how it ends more interested in viewing it.

[MikeAD]

I have read the results from SS last night....yawn.

I watched two matches. The Mark Henry vs Big Show match was great, well done, two professionals. The Rock/Cena vs Awesome Truth match.....boring. Rock kicked tail, finally lets Cena in the ring, he whoops up and then gets beat up, then rock comes in and cleans up and wins. Rock gives Cena the Rock Bottom to end the show. So pointless. No storylines were advanced, and what the heck is going on with the Nash/Triple H situation or with the Miz and R Truth? Where can that storyline go? I thought for sure someone would make a run-in and further that storyline...

And its good that Punk has the belt again but if the past 4-5 years are any indication, he will lose it soon. The titles change hands so many times, I mean Orton has won the belt 9 times and Cena has held it 12 times. Thats absurd. They switch the belt back and forth with such frequency, remember when being a 4 or 5 time champ was HUGE?

And where does it go for Punk? Who will he feud with? Are they going to keep a feud that came from nowhere in Del Rio?

I just can't believe there is absolutely nothing going on right now in the WWE. The direction is awful. I have always watched the post-attitude era with low expectations but this is a bit silly.

[Sports Guy]

The only way to make the buzz for Cena vs. Rock at Mania is to have Cena holding the title. Unless Rock commits to being with the company for a year or two, which I don't think he has or don't think he will, such a thing won't happen. But, even the prospect of Rock winning the gold at Mania, even if it means Cena winning it yet again, would definitely make more casual fans that aren't smart enough to know how it ends more interested in viewing it.

Right now, the plan is for neither Cena or Rock to have the belt at Mania.

Dip...you are obsessed with Jericho..Why? I don't get it.

Really hope Taker gets back.

[MikeAD]

Right, the plan is for neither Cena or Rock to have the belt at Mania.

Dip...you are obsessed with Jericho..Why? I don't get it.

Really hope Taker gets back.

I think they pull it around by Mania. Still rumors about Austin doing a match. The names thrown around are always Orton and Punk. Undertaker will hopefully back and with Kane coming back at the Rumble, there will be enough going on along with the current stars. I just worry if they can build any interesting story lines in the next four months.

[Dipper9]

The only way to make the buzz for Cena vs. Rock at Mania is to have Cena holding the title. Unless Rock commits to being with the company for a year or two, which I don't think he has or don't think he will, such a thing won't happen. But, even the prospect of Rock winning the gold at Mania, even if it means Cena winning it yet again, would definitely make more casual fans that aren't smart enough to know how it ends more interested in viewing it.

I respectfully disagree. Rock vs Cena is HUGE enough on its own, they don't need the Championship involved, especially since having someone else be champ gives you another main event match for the card.

I have read the results from SS last night....yawn.

I watched two matches. The Mark Henry vs Big Show match was great, well done, two professionals. The Rock/Cena vs Awesome Truth match.....boring. Rock kicked tail, finally lets Cena in the ring, he whoops up and then gets beat up, then rock comes in and cleans up and wins. Rock gives Cena the Rock Bottom to end the show. So pointless. No storylines were advanced, and what the heck is going on with the Nash/Triple H situation or with the Miz and R Truth? Where can that storyline go? I thought for sure someone would make a run-in and further that storyline...

And its good that Punk has the belt again but if the past 4-5 years are any indication, he will lose it soon. The titles change hands so many times, I mean Orton has won the belt 9 times and Cena has held it 12 times. Thats absurd. They switch the belt back and forth with such frequency, remember when being a 4 or 5 time champ was HUGE?

And where does it go for Punk? Who will he feud with? Are they going to keep a feud that came from nowhere in Del Rio?

I just can't believe there is absolutely nothing going on right now in the WWE. The direction is awful. I have always watched the post-attitude era with low expectations but this is a bit silly.

First off, PPVs are supposed to be for ending feuds, not advancing them. If you buy PPVs looking for storyline advancement you will always be disappointed. As for Del Rio vs Punk, that story has been set up since the end of the Summer, when Del Rio cashed in his Money in the Bank to take the title from Punk, with the assistance from Nash. In general, I agree that the story lines suck, but Punk vs ADR is not an example of that. As for moving forward, the December PPV is usually another junk one, but then with the new year brings the Rumble and the Road to Mania, which is always the highlight of the wrestling year. In fact, most times the WWE sucks from April thru December, but January thru Mania is always pretty solid.

Right, the plan is for neither Cena or Rock to have the belt at Mania.

Dip...you are obsessed with Jericho..Why? I don't get it.

Really hope Taker gets back.

SG, I do like Jericho, and hope he comes back, but now alot of times I just throw him into my posts as a rib at you. I know you can't stand him. Its all in good fun.

[ShaneDawg85]

Punk had a line in his opening monologue directed towards Laurinitis that was straight out of the Stone Cold playbook. He's no Stone Cold Steve Austin, not by a mile, but he is exactly what this snooze fest of an organization needs right now, and people sound genuinely excited about him having the title.

[Dipper9]

Punk had a line in his opening monologue directed towards Laurinitis that was straight out of the Stone Cold playbook. He's no Stone Cold Steve Austin, not by a mile, but he is exactly what this snooze fest of an organization needs right now, and people sound genuinely excited about him having the title.

Its a shame though that he's the ONLY one who brings excitement to the show!