Pro Wrestling Thread

[ShaneDawg85]

I was actually thinking about Kane while brushing my teeth as the Cena-Henry match was taking place, and as soon as I walked out I see fire and red. My first thought was: "His mask looks like a predator rip off." My second thought was: "That's more like it, but I thought Kane is bald?" I'm surprised he went after Cena as well, but given the storyline of how he left, you know he's going after Henry. Well, at least that's what you'd think. If that is how it goes, I'm calling Kane v. Henry at Rumble, and/or Mania.

[Dipper9]

I was actually thinking about Kane while brushing my teeth as the Cena-Henry match was taking place, and as soon as I walked out I see fire and red. My first thought was: "His mask looks like a predator rip off." My second thought was: "That's more like it, but I thought Kane is bald?" I'm surprised he went after Cena as well, but given the storyline of how he left, you know he's going after Henry. Well, at least that's what you'd think. If that is how it goes, I'm calling Kane v. Henry at Rumble, and/or Mania.

If they rebuild Kane up as an unbeatable force again, I can see masked Kane being Taker's final WrestleMania opponent.

[Sports Guy]

If they rebuild Kane up as an unbeatable force again, I can see masked Kane being Taker's final WrestleMania opponent.

YEa, I can see 4 people...Barrett, Kane, HHH and Henry.

I noticed HHH talking about the Undertaker a lot in his promo last night...Kind of made me wonder.

[Dipper9]

YEa, I can see 4 people...Barrett, Kane, HHH and Henry.

I noticed HHH talking about the Undertaker a lot in his promo last night...Kind of made me wonder.

Yeah, me too. Remember it was the Slammy Awards that set up the second HBK vs Taker Mania rematch, when HBK accepted the Slammy and then challenged Taker right then and there. I thought Trips was gonna do the same thing last night, but he held off. Also remember, the night after WrestleMania last year, Trips came to the ring and told Taker when you get back, I'll be waiting. That would have made TWO huge main events announced and we're still 4 months from the event.

That is what is missing in today's wrestling...long build ups.

[Dipper9]

Yeah, me too. Remember it was the Slammy Awards that set up the second HBK vs Taker Mania rematch, when HBK accepted the Slammy and then challenged Taker right then and there. I thought Trips was gonna do the same thing last night, but he held off. Also remember, the night after WrestleMania last year, Trips came to the ring and told Taker when you get back, I'll be waiting. That would have made TWO huge main events announced and we're still 4 months from the event.

That is what is missing in today's wrestling...long build ups.

Read a report on 411wrestling.com that backs up my thinking here. Looks like its gonna be Trips vs Taker part 3 at Mania. Probably add in HBK as special ref. I wouldn't put it past Triple H and his ego ending the streak.

[ShaneDawg85]

Read a report on 411wrestling.com that backs up my thinking here. Looks like its gonna be Trips vs Taker part 3 at Mania. Probably add in HBK as special ref. I wouldn't put it past Triple H and his ego ending the streak.

While I believe it needs to be someone big that ends the streak, because the current crop isn't good enough, Triple H doing it is simply awful for the business, and would prove everybody right, yet again, about the powers that be in WWE destroying everything. It would be even less logical than Nash ending Goldberg's streak, and that's coming from someone who thinks Goldberg and the streak are two of the most overrated moments in wrestling history, and has low regard for Kevin Nash in any capacity.

[MikeAD]

WWE cannot let HHH beat Undertaker at Mania. Long term fans would be done. Younger fans really wouldn't get it, but this is huge. It is Hogan beating Andre. It cannot be a guy who himself is on the wrong side of his career.

Also, I don't want to see HHH vs Undertaker part 3. Its been done, there is no excitement, HHH loses. If it is a young guy, or even Kane, there is at least some chance that Taker loses and that makes it exciting. I don't know why they continue to rehash the same stuff time after time.

[Sports Guy]

Taker's streak will not end. Its just not going to happen.

They had HHH lose but HHH is the one "still standing". That is the type of outcome that we will see.

Almost after every WM, Taker takes a leave of absence. I bet he hasn't wrestled on Raw or Smackdown in the month of May for at least 5 years.

His opponent loses but gets the satisfaction that they took him out for a while.

[Sports Guy]

Just read this:

As seen on Monday night's RAW Supershow, Triple H brought up The Undertaker's absence and declared that The Streak ended at WrestleMania 27 because we haven't seen The Deadman since then and he couldn't leave the ring on his own.

The Wrestling Observer reports that Triple H vs. The Undertaker is booked as one of the matches at WrestleMania 28 in Miami.

We noted yesterday that officials have Chris Jericho vs. CM Punk for the WWE Title also penciled in for WrestleMania 28. Add The Rock vs. John Cena and you have the three main events for Miami

[Sports Guy]

This on Jericho:

As noted before, Chris Jericho is scheduled to make his return to WWE at the January 2nd, 2012 RAW Supershow from Tennessee.

The latest word from within WWE is that Jericho will be a part of the Royal Rumble pay-per-view and likely the 30-man main event.

Currently penciled into WWE's plans is a feud between WWE Champion CM Punk vs. Jericho with a match at WrestleMania 28

Jericho wins the Rumble?

[ShaneDawg85]

Just read this:

Well Punk vs. Jericho would make for some interesting promo's.

[MikeAD]

As much as I am bored with HHH vs. Taker this could be a great Mania. Those are three solid matches. I hope they don't mess up Kane and he has a great feud. For the fans, it would be great if they could build for an Orton vs. Austin match, but any good Orton feud would be good. Hopefully they take the rest of the card seriously and Ziggler, Swagger, Rhodes and the rest have legitimate feuds.

[Sports Guy]

As much as I am bored with HHH vs. Taker this could be a great Mania. Those are three solid matches. I hope they don't mess up Kane and he has a great feud. For the fans, it would be great if they could build for an Orton vs. Austin match, but any good Orton feud would be good. Hopefully they take the rest of the card seriously and Ziggler, Swagger, Rhodes and the rest have legitimate feuds.

If Henry still has the title, Henry vs Kane is possible IMO.

I have read that they want to turn Henry into a face again and it could happen soon.

So, maybe he will lose the title to the Big Show and be a good guy and you see Show vs Kane?

[Greg Pappas]

Regarding HHH v. Undertaker III, I prefer someone else get their shot at the Deadman, and get a huge push from it. The options are limited, but CM Punk knocking off the Undertaker at WM 28 would be HUGE. The WWE does and has done a poor job of getting the younger guys over. But alas, it seems that HHH/Undertaker III is the plan. Ugh.

Jericho, Rock, HHH, Kane, Mark Henry, Nash, and the Undertaker are all 40+, while R-Truth and the Big Show join them this January/February.
Punk, Cena, Miz, Barrett, Orton, Del Rio, Reks, Sheamus, Ziggler (prefer his real name: Nick Nemeth), Mysterio... into their 30's.

Rhodes (26) and Ryder (26) are the only sub-30's that have any push at all. Interesting. I'd love to see an infusion of new impressive talent. Here's to hoping.

[Dipper9]

Regarding HHH v. Undertaker III, I prefer someone else get their shot at the Deadman, and get a huge push from it. The options are limited, but CM Punk knocking off the Undertaker at WM 28 would be HUGE. The WWE does and has done a poor job of getting the younger guys over. But alas, it seems that HHH/Undertaker III is the plan. Ugh.

Jericho, Rock, HHH, Kane, Mark Henry, Nash, and the Undertaker are all 40+, while R-Truth and the Big Show join them this January/February.
Punk, Cena, Miz, Barrett, Orton, Del Rio, Reks, Sheamus, Ziggler (prefer his real name: Nick Nemeth), Mysterio... into their 30's.

Rhodes (26) and Ryder (26) are the only sub-30's that have any push at all. Interesting. I'd love to see an infusion of new impressive talent. Here's to hoping.

Even in the heyday of the 80's, most of the guys were established stars from the independent scenes and territories. Not many of the great stars were young guys. In the 90's, the Attitude Era hit and again, you had Trips, Rock, Austin, Taker, Foley, etc. All guys well into their 30's and into their primes.

To me, I like seeing the young guys take their lumps before being thrown into the main event scene. Look at Rocky Maivia. Boring as hell. The Ringmaster. Ugh. Mean Mark Callous. They all paid their dues before clicking on all cylinders and becoming main eventers. Meanwhile, guys who were pushed down our throats early, like Del Rio, Sheamus, etc. faded out fast and had to rebuild themselves up. To me, the younger guys should be the guys like Rhodes and Zigler fighting in the mid card for the second belts, or, God forbid, rebuild the tag division. Many a great Hall of Famer started out as a tag team guy. Once they are established and know how to click with the fans, thats when they should earn their spot in the main event.

As for the early Mania card, I love it.

Cena vs Rock has been an insiders dream match since Cena got big and Rock went Hollywood.

Punk vs Jericho will have some of the greatest interviews of all time, and they can both go in the ring and should deliver big for the Title Match at Mania.

Taker needs to be in a feud with a guy who is out of the "regular wrestler" role. Punk is a guy in his prime who is fighting for titles. No need to go after Taker. But someone like Triple H, who as he stated last year, has done everything there is to do in this business, the one last thing to hang on his trophy wall is taking down the Streak. I don't like that its the third time they will have faced at WrestleMania, but I LOVE that they set this match up immediately the night after WrestleMania, and have teased it periodically throughout the year. Have Taker come back and say "I ain't dead yet" and you've got your Trips vs Taker Mania match.

That is three very solid main events. Throw in the World Title and the secondary titles, a celebrity match, and GD if I wouldn't consider buying that PPV.

And I have stated it before, but I'll go on the record now, soon after WrestleMania 28 they will set up Punk vs Austin for Mania 29. Book it.