Pro Wrestling Thread

[Greg Pappas]

David Otunga and Michael McGillicutty were garnering no heat. They needed to lose the straps fast.

Agreed... both are lackluster guys, and I expect neither to amount to much, outside of MM reverting to Joe Hennig, and getting a push against Dolph Ziggler and his 'Perfection' angle. BTW, "Michael McGillicutty"? Really? REALLY? LOL

[Greg Pappas]

A guy that the WWE seems to be missing the boat on is Tyler Reks. That dude is too good to be this under-utilized. Is he hurt or something?

[adamwolff11]

A guy that the WWE seems to be missing the boat on is Tyler Reks. That dude is too good to be this under-utilized. Is he hurt or something?

I feel the same way. I'm really hoping he gets a push in the future, or at least some TV time for crying out loud. I thought he had superstar written all over him, but I haven't seen him for quite awhile. I'm pretty sure he's not hurt. He tweeted about being at an event last week, something about just waiting for an opportunity or something.

[Greg Pappas]

I feel the same way. I'm really hoping he gets a push in the future, or at least some TV time for crying out loud. I thought he had superstar written all over him, but I haven't seen him for quite awhile. I'm pretty sure he's not hurt. He tweeted about being at an event last week, something about just waiting for an opportunity or something.

Yeah, the WWE has always had an issue with focusing too much on a few story-lines, and not enough time pushing a roster of stars. Why can't there be real drama revolving around the IC/US title, nearly as much as the other two world titles? Tyler Reks and Justin Gabriel could be bigger stars if allowed to be.

[Sports Guy]

So, HHH fires Nash.

By doing that and saying that Nash isn't his friend anymore, it opens the door a little more for Nash helping HHH.

Also, HHH isn't going to be taken off of TV and taken out of the COO role in all likelihood, so its looking like a HHH win.

[Crazysilver03]

So, HHH fires Nash.

By doing that and saying that Nash isn't his friend anymore, it opens the door a little more for Nash helping HHH.

Also, HHH isn't going to be taken off of TV and taken out of the COO role in all likelihood, so its looking like a HHH win.

Yeah, as soon as that stipulation was made, I knew that HHH was going to win the match.

[adamwolff11]

Yeah, as soon as that stipulation was made, I knew that HHH was going to win the match.

I thought (and still do) the same thing, but the more I think about it, I don't think it's guaranteed. I felt the same way last year whenever Cena was the referee for the Barrett/Orton match I believe, if Orton won, Cena was fired. Orton won, Cena was 'fired', and it just basically opened up an interesting new angle. HHH could lose and then get involved in a power struggle for the company with someone: John L, Stephanie, Vince, Nash, who knows. I still think the likely scenario is him winning, but I don't believe it's a sure thing.

[MikeAD]

Probably part of the storyline but Nash has been released by WWE.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/2416...-been-released

[Dipper9]

Quick thoughts:

I like Kevin Nash but he has seemed a bit "off" on the microphone since returning. Maybe he's just rusty, or maybe he's just lost it. I never watched him in TNA, so perhaps this is just him, but he's not the Nash I remember being so smooth and good on the mic.

I feel like CM Punk has lost a bit of his edge since the feud with Trips has started. His "pipe bombs" about Steph holding Trips balls and such was funny the first time, but after saying the same thing week after week its gotten stale really fast. I hope they don't blow a great thing here by having him job to Triple H at NOC.

Speaking of Triple H, I know the internet hates him, but the guy is Gold on the mic and still has the goods to go in the ring. I am hoping he loses to Punk, loses the COO gig, and just gets back in the ring on a semi-regular basis.

I am LOVING Truth and Miz together. If they're not careful, these guys are gonna be faces real soon, because they are hysterical and play off each other very well.

Sheamus is a friggin Monster. I love the dude and hope they keep him as an a$$ kicking monster and don't try to make him a funny guy.

About damn time they get behind Swaggar again. He's got the look. He can go in the ring. And if he hooks up with Vickie, he'll have a mouthpiece to do his talking. They could easily build this guy up as a main event contender again pretty quickly.

Alberto Del Rio...I'm not completely sold on him, and I thought his first promo after winning the title was not great, but his work last Monday night was very good. He needs to go over Cena strong at NOC, but I don't have the confidence that the WWE will let Cena lose three PPV's in a row.

Its September, which means Foley's TNA contract is over and he should be free to show up at any time! I can't wait to see him back in some role!

[Sports Guy]

Apparently Nash is filming some movie and isn't allowed to wrestle. He actually may not be back.

I agree with Dip about Punk. His schtick has already gotten old. This whole concept of telling it like it is was good and his original shoot was great but its has gone downhill since then.

[glenn__davis]

Not sure if this belongs here, but I've been up late with a newborn over the last week or so and have been watching some of the WWE films on Netflix.

Has anyone seen the Chris Jericho "Breaking the Code" special? Really good. Hardly any in-ring stuff, but just a documentary following his career from it's beginning. I was a big fan of WCW back in the NWO days, and Jericho was so, so good. Unbelievable that they just let him go to the WWE without much of a fight.

Also been watching the Macho Madness collection. Forgot how good he was back in his prime. Also watching these old bouts makes you realize how lost the art of selling is. Savage made his opponents look awesome.

OK - back to your regularly scheduled WWE discussion thread.

Oh - Kevin Nash is AWFUL. Awful awful awful. He has not done anything relevant since the early stages of the NWO. Terrible on the mic, terrible in the ring, and little to no effort. He is by far my least favorite wrestler ever.

[ShaneDawg85]

Not sure if this belongs here, but I've been up late with a newborn over the last week or so and have been watching some of the WWE films on Netflix.

Has anyone seen the Chris Jericho "Breaking the Code" special? Really good. Hardly any in-ring stuff, but just a documentary following his career from it's beginning. I was a big fan of WCW back in the NWO days, and Jericho was so, so good. Unbelievable that they just let him go to the WWE without much of a fight.

Also been watching the Macho Madness collection. Forgot how good he was back in his prime. Also watching these old bouts makes you realize how lost the art of selling is. Savage made his opponents look awesome.

OK - back to your regularly scheduled WWE discussion thread.

Oh - Kevin Nash is AWFUL. Awful awful awful. He has not done anything relevant since the early stages of the NWO. Terrible on the mic, terrible in the ring, and little to no effort. He is by far my least favorite wrestler ever.

A lot of that was the politics of WCW. They shafted every single guy that was in the cruiser weight division. Had they given more of a platform, and put guys like Jericho, Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, and Mysterio over, that company might have lasted a little while longer. Instead they kept the NWO storyline going far longer than it ever should have, kept the same cast of characters at the top and never promoted anybody new, or let guys that really were never more than mid-carders at best, like Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner, win multiple heavyweight championships. I'm sure WCW would have loved to have kept Jericho around and kept him in no-man's land, but I'm sure Jericho was just tired of not getting anywhere, and the pure incompetence of WCW.

[MikeAD]

A lot of that was the politics of WCW. They shafted every single guy that was in the cruiser weight division. Had they given more of a platform, and put guys like Jericho, Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, and Mysterio over, that company might have lasted a little while longer. Instead they kept the NWO storyline going far longer than it ever should have, kept the same cast of characters at the top and never promoted anybody new, or let guys that really were never more than mid-carders at best, like Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner, win multiple heavyweight championships. I'm sure WCW would have loved to have kept Jericho around and kept him in no-man's land, but I'm sure Jericho was just tired of not getting anywhere, and the pure incompetence of WCW.

Yeah it wasn't even much of a choice for him. Continue to fight in the below mid-card level or go premier as a star in the WWE. His WWE debut was hyped up like few others.

Business students, entertainers, really anyone trying to run anything should get a two hour course on how not to run something, WCW was just so poor. TNA might be worse, but I hear they have some profit at least.

[glenn__davis]

A lot of that was the politics of WCW. They shafted every single guy that was in the cruiser weight division. Had they given more of a platform, and put guys like Jericho, Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, and Mysterio over, that company might have lasted a little while longer. Instead they kept the NWO storyline going far longer than it ever should have, kept the same cast of characters at the top and never promoted anybody new, or let guys that really were never more than mid-carders at best, like Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner, win multiple heavyweight championships. I'm sure WCW would have loved to have kept Jericho around and kept him in no-man's land, but I'm sure Jericho was just tired of not getting anywhere, and the pure incompetence of WCW.

Oh, no question, I don't dispute any of this. In fact, he talks about it in the DVD - how he had this angle going with Goldberg, and thought it would be a decent PPV match, but Goldberg thought it was too unrealistic and basically just squashed him one night. It wasn't even a match, Goldberg just speared him on the ramp. He said that was when it was time to go.

Just amazing that they couldn't see how good he was. Everyone else in the world could. But I guess guys like Nash and Hogan had to keep their spots and get their money.

Sadly, I root for losers in life. The Orioles. WCW. Sega. Maybe one day I product I like will actually succeed. Not that I really liked WCW by the end, it was really bad by that point.

[Dipper9]

For all of WCW's mistakes, Vince was just as bad. When he bought WCW, how many of those guys are still in the WWE, much less how many were ever really pushed as legit superstars? Vince jobbed them all out because they weren't his creations.

Its REALLY amazing that Jericho survived through all that. I guess because Vince made him a main eventer and he was a mid carder in WCW, Jericho was allowed to shine???