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08-16-2011 03:49 PM #31
08-16-2011 04:01 PM #32
I think it would have been cool to see Baltimore respond to that by being extremely aggressive to start Day 2. Something like:
2:4 Dillon Howard/Daniel Norris (ended up with Cleveland ($1.85MM)/Toronto($2MM))
3:4 Johnny Eiermann (ended up with Tampa ($550K))
4:4 Safe college guy (could probably have been Mike Wright or Kyle Simon)
5:4 Jake Cave (ended up with Yankees ($825K))
6:4 Nick Delmonico or Trent Howard ($1.5MM or $125K)
7:4 Trent Howard or Cody Kukuk (ended up with Boston($800K)) if Howard taken at 6:4
8:4 John Ruettiger
9:4 Devin Jones
10:4 Tyler Wilson
This would have taken away the heavy skew to college arms and created a little more balance in the draft portfolio. The total increase in cost would have been, in my opinion, quite reasonable (about $1.8 MM). You'd be left with:
Assuming Kukuk and no Delmonico
3 HS arms
4 College arms
2 HS Pos players
1 College Pos player
Still a focus on college arms, but a little more upside for less than $2MM more. You could also boot the Howard pick and take Delmonico and Kukuk for a total increase of just over $3MM and a little more overall upside.
I think in a vacuum Baltimore's draft was very strong. When compared to what Tampa, Toronto and Boston landed, the net is probably greater distance between "them" and Baltimore in measured Minor League talent.
08-16-2011 04:39 PM #33
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Stotle, do you think Baltimore was able to draft compensation level talent in the later rounds relative to the rest of the AL East drafted with their compensation picks? Basically, did we close the gap for only having one 1st rounder? At all? Or did the rest of the AL East pretty much clean up talent wise on their picks.
08-16-2011 04:42 PM #34
08-17-2011 02:09 PM #35
Daniel Norris was the one guy I was praying we would land. I thought he would go in the 10-20 range. I was shocked he fell. Im happy with our selections but add Norris with Bundy and Demonico and it puts us over the top. Same goes last year for AJ Cole. I thought we should have been all over him as well. Our system would look great right now with Cole, Norris, and Bundy in the low minors. Speaking of Cole, does anyone know what he is doing this year? How do his numbers look? The Nats, Pirates, and Royals are really pulling away from everyone else when it comes to spending the last couple years. There is absolutely no reason we shouldnt be taking the same stance esp. if we are not getting involved in the latin market.
08-17-2011 03:54 PM #36
08-18-2011 07:33 AM #37
We had no international budget this year and we signed no top shelf free agents...and then to wrap it up we got outspent by 10 other teams according to Baseball America...
The Pirates, who gave a record $8 million bonus to No. 1 overall pick Gerrit Cole and set another mark for non-first-rounders by paying $5 million to second-rounder Josh Bell, spent a total of $17,005,700. That obliterated the old bonus standard of $11,927,200 set by the 2010 Nationals.
The Nationals didn't relinquish that record without a fight, spending $15,002,100 in bonuses. Additional guarantees to Rendon and Purke bring Washington's overall total to $17,602,100. The record for the most guaranteed money spent in a single draft remains $19,118,604 by the 2009 Nationals, the bulk of which was a $15,107,104 big league contract for No. 1 overall pick Stephen Strasburg.
The Royals ($14,066,000), Cubs ($11,954,550) and Diamondbacks ($11,930,000) also surpassed Washington's old bonus record. The Rays ($11,482,900), Mariners ($11,330,500), Padres ($11,020,600), Blue Jays ($10,996,500) and Red Sox ($10,978,700) brought the total of teams spending $10 million or more to 10. Only seven teams previously had topped $10 million in bonus spending, all in the previous three drafts.
MacPhail's build from within plan looks more and more like a lie with each passing day. Of course the counter argument would be that we got Bundy on the cheap, but if they knew the figure they were willing to go with to get Bundy than they should've been allocating more money to more overslot picks instead of this arsenal of relievers we drafted this year.
08-18-2011 08:52 AM #38Bowie
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08-18-2011 09:57 AM #39
08-18-2011 10:28 AM #40
08-18-2011 10:33 AM #41
It will be interesting to see how the Werth fiasco effects Nats' management. It's hard to imagine a much worse scenario than a 32-year-old corner outfielder hitting .226 and putting up a 2-win season in year one of a hugely expensive 7-year deal. I thought the contract was silly when they signed it, but if Werth doesn't rebound in a huge way it might be worse than Carlos Lee.
08-18-2011 11:00 AM #42Plus Member Since 09/03 Hall of Fame
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Now, that said, I do think the O's should have been more aggressive in the early rounds of the draft. We only had one first round pick and no supplementals, so we should have been very aggressive in rounds 2-5.
08-18-2011 11:17 AM #43
08-18-2011 11:34 AM #44
If players sign with the Nats its because they got more money than a contender was willing to offer, or because they believe the Nats are about to get good. Unless their fortunes turn the Werth contract will stand in the way of both.
08-18-2011 11:52 AM #45
The Nats are on the upswing, in spite of the Werth contract, but you're right, unless Werth has some major turnaround next year, they are going to have to figure out what to do with that deal.