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09-20-2011 07:00 PM #181Keys
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09-20-2011 10:24 PM #184
If the SEC chooses to go to 16 members, it will need to poach anywhere from one to three ACC schools to get there. West Virginia is the only Big East school likely to be a candidate. That includes TCU, by the way, as it is redundant TV-wise given A&M and doesn't fit with the conference as a whole as a small private college (one Vanderbilt is enough). Missouri is there but might go to the Big Ten. Figure out those two and you know how many ACC schools are necessary.
A "high-ranking SEC official" told the Sporting News' Matt Hayes that "every option is on the table now". Presumably that means any kind of gentleman's agreement about not taking schools from current SEC states is off. It also probably means that the conference will move forward without any concerns of stepping on others' toes. The ACC broke the realignment seal by actively taking schools from another conference, so the SEC and Pac-12 can now act without having to feel like they started this. They can point to the ACC and say they're just reacting to current events. It also means ACC schools are fair game for the SEC and Big Ten, as them taking ACC members is no different from what that conference just did to the Big East.
As for the $20 million ACC exit fee, it's a not a huge deterrent. Imagine the SEC ends up with either Missouri or West Virginia and must go get two ACC schools to get to 16. It's tough for a school to come up with an extra $20 million in one year, so let's imagine that the other 14 SEC members decide to front them some of the fee to be repaid with reduced shares of the TV money over time.
If you split the $40 million 16 ways, it costs everyone just $2.5 million each. If the ACC schools pay half of their fees and the rest is shared among the other 14, it's just $1.43 million per school. The league office might have a rainy day fund to help kick in some change too, and the new SEC-16 TV contracts, which would be richer on a per-year basis than the existing SEC deals, would far exceed the ACC's current contracts. If the ACC schools run their first SEC year's budget as though they're on the old ACC deal ($13 million from TV annually), then however much above $13 million it ends up being is money they can use towards the exit fee. It's totally doable.
With the gentleman's agreement, if it ever existed, likely dead, an SEC headed to 16 teams would likely target Florida State above all other ACC schools. It has the largest national profile and would essentially claim the entirety of Florida's large TV markets for the SEC (not even people in Miami really care about Miami). From there, a quest for completely new TV markets would probably lead the league to explore adding Virginia Tech and/or NC State.
Total speculation, but interesting nonetheless.
Last edited by CrimsonTribe; 09-20-2011 at 10:27 PM.
09-20-2011 10:42 PM #185As the Big East has flirted — but mostly sat on its butt — with expansion for the last year, Navy’s name has come up on a recurring basis. So has East Carolina’s, but the Big East has made it abundantly clear that they want the Pirates like the ACC wants West Virginia.
That reportedly didn’t stop the Pirates from applying though for the 27th time.
Pete Thamel of the New York Times tweets that “East Carolina (again) applied to the Big East today. They didn’t want it a secret, as ’50 people were copied on the e-mail.’”
09-20-2011 11:15 PM #186PeteThamelNYT: The Pac-12 will not expand. On a conference call tonight presidents affirmed their decision to remain a 12-team conference."
09-20-2011 11:17 PM #187
Here's the official statement:
PAC-12 AFFIRMS DECISION NOT TO EXPAND
WALNUT CREEK, Calif.-- In light of the widespread speculation about potential scenarios for Conference re-alignment, the Pac-12 Presidents and Chancellors have affirmed their decision to remain a 12-team conference. Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott said, “after careful review we have determined that it is in the best interests of our member institutions, student-athletes and fans to remain a 12-team conference. While we have great respect for all of the institutions that have contacted us, and certain expansion proposals were financially attractive, we have a strong conference structure and culture of equality that we are committed to preserve. With new landmark TV agreements and plans to launch our innovative television networks, we are going to focus solely on these great assets, our strong heritage and the bright future in front of us.””
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09-20-2011 11:20 PM #188
09-20-2011 11:27 PM #189
I wouldn't be surprised of the Big XII stays at 9. As long as it doesn't void any TV contracts, it's one less member to share with. And it also means 4 non-conference games per season instead of the current 3....which means more opportunities for Texas to show football games on the Longhorn Network, which will please ESPN.
09-21-2011 07:37 AM #190
Dont understand all the hate for WVU. Considering WVU football team is better then any school so far that as been rumored or has moved around between the big east, acc and sec
09-21-2011 07:41 AM #191
Just a bit off topic, but I really hope that one of the end results from all of this money grubbing is letting teams sell beer during the games. Having to sneak airplane bottles into Virginia Tech games is getting old. I mean, what sober adult drinks eight regular sodas at a football game?
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