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11-10-2011 02:01 PM #406OU athletic director Joe Castiglione is a supporter of expansion back to 12 but said that Neinas could be attempting to instill stability in the conference. “I think what Chuck might be doing is settling everything down, not letting speculation develop,” Castiglione said. “He may very well believe that staying at 10 is the best thing, and I respect that. But I don’t believe we should stay at 10, not with other moving parts.”
Those moving parts are the expanding conferences. The ACC and the SEC to 14 schools. The Pac and Big Ten to 12. The Big East hopes to get to 12 football schools. In that landscape, the Big 12 at 10 teams appears weak and vulnerable.
A Big 12 source who supports further expansion said the addition of Louisville is important to West Virginia, which sits 871 miles from the nearest Big 12 member. “We have to explore what type of growth would have to be better for our conference,” the source said. “There’s no data that a conference of 16 is better than a conference of 12. In our case, the number is not the issue so much as the quality.
11-10-2011 02:33 PM #407
11-11-2011 12:46 PM #408
I forget where I saw it, but there is a chance that the AQ (automatic qualifier) Status for conferences will be discontinued-- I believe by or after 2014. This would potentially lead to less conference shuffling. Potentially.
11-11-2011 12:59 PM #409
11-11-2011 11:17 PM #410
11-12-2011 09:21 AM #411
11-15-2011 08:28 PM #412
BYU and the Big East are in serious discussions, but nothing is final yet for football only membership. Still ironing out details.
11-17-2011 12:13 PM #413
Was reading on a Notre Dame message board that Notre Dame might eventually end up in the BE, in the foreseeable future. They mentioned they had heard the BE will allow BYU to keep their own tv network that they have and keep any and all revenues that come from that deal. If the BE allows BYU; ND feels they can get the same deal which is in their interest.
It also states that after conference expansion comes to an end they might have problems with scheduling big name schools because their schedules will be pretty full do to conference scheduling. If Navy and Air Force join those are a couple teams they already play against and BYU/ND just signed off on a series that starts in the upcoming years. ND also recruits the from the BE territory so they dont want to lose their presence in that area and the BE might open up possible recruits from Texas and Florida and other areas since it will be so wide spread.
Then it of course talks about how with Boise, BYU, Houston it will help the BE in keeping their automatic bid and ND would always have a way to get into a BCS. They also said their BCS bid, that they get if they finish certain record, might be revoked from the BCS committee and they dont want to lose that.
Not sure if there is any truth or anything to everything said but it does seem plausible.
11-17-2011 02:33 PM #414
11-18-2011 06:24 PM #415
Latest talk now is that BCS is going to drop the Orange/Sugar/Fiesta/Rose Bowls and will only have the championship game. The other bowls will go back to having their deals directly with the conferences like the old days (although they currently do have conference deals to a degree). The thinking is that this will eliminate the possibility of lawsuits, and slow down expansion since all of the non-AQs will have no reason to try to get into AQ conferences. Not sure I agree with that.
11-23-2011 04:38 PM #416
Recent tweets from Jon Wilner:
Also told that ADs from FBS schools believe Rutgers & UConn could head to ACC and BE would cease to exist as fball conf
BE's uncertain future has Boise State unsure of its next move. If AQs are eliminated in next BCS cycle, no reason for BSU to be in BE
Source: "The ACC will go to 16.''
All of this comes on the heels of the news that BYU will not join the Big East for football. The hangup was that BYU wanted to maintain rights to ALL of its home games, not just the home games that the Big East's TV partners chose not to broadcast. Can't blame the Big East for saying no to that....not even Texas has an arrangement that lopsided.
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11-23-2011 06:31 PM #417
Smart move by Boise... I have always though there was pure desperation and short-sightedness in the move to the BE. BYU will be independent for many years in my view, unless they are willing to concede some things. Getting into thw MWC with Boise may present their best current option though. Pure speculation on my part.
11-23-2011 06:51 PM #418
But yeah, I can see why Boise (and the others) aren't jumping at the Big East anymore. With the serious talk that automatic BCS bids will go away after the current deal ends in 2013, the only thing to possibly gain in the Big East is a better TV deal. The conundrum is that the Big East can't negotiate a new TV deal until it adds new members. So now we're back to the very realistic possibility that the Big East may cease to exist as a football conference.
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11-23-2011 07:02 PM #419
Also, for Greg, PrivateO and all the others who drop by and are interested in this subject, here is where I get much of my information on the various television deals that the conferences have in place.
11-23-2011 07:18 PM #420