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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Pappas View Post
    Yeah LOL. Baylor and Iowa State have to be feeling the impending pinch... while Missouri should be fine and Kansas and Kansas State may have other options.
    There's always Conference USA, WAC or Mountain West.

    With Kansas' basketball reputation they'll find a home somewhere and they'll drag Kansas St. with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonBird View Post
    There's always Conference USA, WAC or Mountain West.

    With Kansas' basketball reputation they'll find a home somewhere and they'll drag Kansas St. with them.
    No BCS or TV money in those conference's though. Even with the grossly uneven distribution of revenues in the Big XII, have to think Baylor was still better off there than in one of the non-AQs. Same for Iowa State. They'll be the ones left standing without a chair when the music stops.

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    I wonder what makes WVU so attractive to the SEC. I get that the SEC can extend their footprint but Morgantown doesn't have that many households.

    Missouri would be so much more attractive I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonBird View Post
    I wonder what makes WVU so attractive to the SEC. I get that the SEC can extend their footprint but Morgantown doesn't have that many households.

    Missouri would be so much more attractive I would think.
    I think the WVU talk might have been a smokescreen. The SEC is being very cautious here. They obviously want to avoid legal entanglements first and foremost. But for appearance sake I think they are also trying to avoid being viewed as the ones who drove the final nail into the Big XII coffin. The logic being that Texas A&M-to-the-SEC has been in the works for weeks now, and until the president of Oklahoma U spoke up last Friday and word spread of them and OSU going to the Pac-12, it was believed the Big XII would simply move on after A&M left and exist as a 9-team conference or add new members. But if the SEC takes A&M and then takes Missouri, then I think the conference dissolves. On the other hand, if A&M leaves, then Oklahoma and OSU are the next to bolt, then the conference dissolves and then the SEC can go invite Missouri with a clear conscience. It's all semantics, though. Texas is really the iceberg that's sinking this ship.

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    Question: Do you think we WILL see four 16-team Super-Conferences within two years? I tend to think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Pappas View Post
    Question: Do you think we WILL see four 16-team Super-Conferences within two years? I tend to think so.
    Yes. Even if Baylor doesn't back down today and let A&M go, thus starting the domino effect, they can't hold that toxic mishmash of schools together forever.

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    FootballBYU Byu Football
    BYU will accept Big 12 offer pending OU signs intent to stay contract... Could be announced as early as Saturday

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    I think we'll soon see the 4 superconferences. Then the four-team playoff bracket will be much easier to sell, especially considering it will actually be eight, with the four Conference Championship games.

    Here's my best guess at what that might look like:

    ACC

    ATLANTIC CONF
    Maryland
    Clemson
    Florida State
    North Carolina State
    Boston College
    Wake Forest
    West Virginia*
    South Florida*

    COASTAL CONF
    Georgia Tech
    North Carolina
    Virginia
    Virginia Tech
    Duke
    Miami (FL)
    Louisville*
    Syracuse*

    Big 16

    Big Ten - Legends CONF OVERALL
    Iowa
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Nebraska
    Northwestern
    Minnesota
    Cincinnati*
    Connecticut*

    Big Ten - Leaders CONF OVERALL
    Illinois
    Ohio State
    Penn State
    Purdue
    Wisconsin
    Indiana
    Pittsburgh*
    Rutgers*

    PAC 16

    NORTH
    California
    Stanford
    Washington
    Washington State
    Oregon
    Oregon State
    Boise State*
    Texas Tech*

    SOUTH
    Arizona
    Arizona State
    USC
    Utah
    Colorado
    UCLA
    Utah State*
    Oklahoma State*

    SEC

    EAST
    Florida
    Kentucky
    South Carolina
    Tennessee
    Vanderbilt
    Georgia
    TCU*
    Texas*

    WEST
    Alabama
    Arkansas
    Auburn
    LSU
    Mississippi State
    Ole Miss
    Texas A&M*
    Oklahoma*

    The only thing left to consider are a few other programs that phase in and out of relevancy. Traditional independents will probably remain the same (BYU and ND).

    * Indicates a program new to the conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanfran327 View Post
    SOUTH
    Arizona
    Arizona State
    USC
    Utah
    Colorado
    UCLA
    Utah*
    Oklahoma State*

    * Indicates a program new to the conference.
    That would be quite a trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birds of B'more View Post
    That would be quite a trick.
    Sorry, guy. Meant Utah State.

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    I think Oklahoma sticks now. The Big 12 will survive and add two more teams (as well as BYU) to get back to 12. Didn't see this coming.
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    Some links and tweets:

    Andy Katz talking about realignment and its impact on non-football conference commissioners

    ESPNAndyKatz Andy Katz
    Baylor won't budge on waiving rights until OU decides; Texas, Texas Tech waive rights; Iowa State does not: es.pn/qr4A2l

    This story is gaining steam on some conference realignment threads that I follow. A Northwestern Football Message Boards thread has an "insider" who believes that Texas and Notre Dame have jointly presented a plan for them both to join the B1G. Same poster also said that the B1G rejected Oklahoma. Take all of this with a huge grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateO View Post
    Some links and tweets:

    Andy Katz talking about realignment and its impact on non-football conference commissioners

    ESPNAndyKatz Andy Katz
    Baylor won't budge on waiving rights until OU decides; Texas, Texas Tech waive rights; Iowa State does not: es.pn/qr4A2l

    This story is gaining steam on some conference realignment threads that I follow. A Northwestern Football Message Boards thread has an "insider" who believes that Texas and Notre Dame have jointly presented a plan for them both to join the B1G. Same poster also said that the B1G rejected Oklahoma. Take all of this with a huge grain of salt.
    I would be surprised at this.

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    Another story making the rounds is the Big East reaching out to Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor. If that's true it could be enough to alleviate Baylor's (and the other 3 schools) concerns, since they'd be headed to another BCS conference, one that is about to negotiate a new TV deal that could be worth a lot of money. Other advantages would be that they could be travel partners with TCU and it's also a great conference to show off the decent basketball program they've built.

    If that sets in motion the A&M move to the SEC (and subsequently Missouri), OU and OSU to the Pac-12, then the big question is what Texas would do and whether Texas Tech would be the only one left out in the cold.

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    I can't imagine the Men's Baseball team (or any non-revenue sport) would enjoy traveling from Waco, TX to Storrs, CT for a Fri/Sat/Sun series. That's some serious travel time and time out of school for 18-22 year olds.

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