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09-17-2011 03:54 PM #106
Wow as a Big East Fan I hate the idea of Syracuse and Pitt leaving.
As a Syracuse fan, I love the move. I'll miss the rivalry with Georgetown, but Syracuse in the ACC for basketball will be great.
09-17-2011 04:01 PM #107
I don't care what this does for football.
ACC basketball is going to be AWESOME!
09-17-2011 05:20 PM #108
Let's assume this is official and Syracuse and Pitt join the ACC. I know most of the readers here are ACC fans, but I wanted to take a look at the Big East, or at least, what remains of it.
Football members: Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, TCU*, West Virginia
Non-football members: Notre Dame, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall
WVU has already been rumored to be heading to the SEC as well. Even if TCU is allowed to vote on conference expansion or who to bring in to make up for the Cuse/Pitt loss, the basketball-only schools have a 8-7 majority (assuming Notre Dame sides with them, thus keeping their football independence). Odds are the Catholics will vote against any possible football expansion, so that they can eliminate the "hybrid" conference. This will ultimately force the rest of the football members to seek asylum elsewhere, probably in a tweaked Big 12 (once OU decides what they're doing). There's still a lot that needs to happen for this to occur (Pitt/Syracuse to become official, OU/OSU to the Pac).
But, it's food for thought.
09-17-2011 07:10 PM #109
TCU will jump ship (Big 10 or SEC maybe). There is no way the Big East is keeping their BCS auto berth without expansion and really, what schools are even remotely in the east and worthy to join (and aren't already in a great conference).
09-17-2011 07:59 PM #110
09-17-2011 09:05 PM #111
Terrific news, if true.
Two sources close to the situation say the ACC as an option for Texas may be decreasing. Nothing is ever final in the world of realignment until it's final.
But a source close to Texas told Orangebloods.com the Pac-12 may be becoming more of a viable option for the Longhorns and that moving UT's non-football sports into the ACC and remaining independent in football would not be a leading option for Texas at this time.
Another source close to Texas said UT officials were totally surprised by the developments involving Pitt, Syracuse and the ACC.
Another Big 12 administrator told Orangebloods.com the ACC appears as if it is moving on without Texas in its plans.
That Big 12 administrator said the ACC is reluctant to bring in Texas for three reasons: 1) how the Longhorn Network would be worked into its revenue sharing; 2) that the ACC sees itself as an east coast conference and wants to protect that by not reaching into the southwest (no matter how much TV money adding Texas would mean); and 3) Texas indicated to the ACC it would need to bring Texas Tech with them to the ACC, and the ACC members were not excited about that because of Texas Tech's academic standing (No. 160 in latest U.S. News and World Report).
09-17-2011 11:17 PM #112
1 Boston College
8 Virginia Tech
12 Wake Forest
13 NC State
14 Georgia Tech
15 Florida State
8 Mississippi State
9 Ole Miss
10 South Carolina
13 Texas A&M
15 West Virginia
5 Michigan State
9 Ohio State
10 Penn State
14 Kansas State
15 Notre Dame
2 Arizona State
6 Oregon State
12 Washington State
14 Texas Tech
16 Oklahoma State
09-18-2011 01:12 AM #113
09-18-2011 08:53 AM #114
09-18-2011 10:04 AM #115Plus member since 11/06 All-Star
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- Beaverton, OR
They've added two great basketball schools so I'd like to see them add two great football schools. If you exclude Texas and ND, I'm not sure who those schools would be.
09-18-2011 12:53 PM #116
09-18-2011 01:03 PM #117
My best guess right now would be that (after the Pac-12 raids the upper echelon of the Big XII), the remaining schools will invite the Big East football schools. They could still get automatic qualifying. KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, Texas Tech?, Louisville, Cincinnati, TCU, and maybe 1-2 CUSA/MWC teams.
I do think eventually the ACC gets UConn and Rutgers to completely take over the East Coast market.
09-18-2011 02:40 PM #118
- Join Date
- Jan 2004
- Camden, DE
So two great football schools probably isn't realistic. They'll have to settle for 2 decent to good programs.
UConn and Rutgers have been improving in football and the former is a great basketball program. And they have great markets. I'd go with them.
09-18-2011 02:49 PM #119UConn president Susan Herbst is aggressively pursuing membership in the ACC to become the 15th or 16th member institution in the conference, according to a source with direct knowledge of UConn's situation.
According to the source, Herbst was having conversations recently but in light of Pittsburgh's and Syracuse's defections from the Big East, the talks have accelerated in the last 48 hours.
In a statement earlier Sunday, Herbst said that although UConn was "a proud charter member of the Big East" the school was staying "actively involved in discussions with our counterparts from around the country to ensure the successful long-term future of our university's athletic program."
09-18-2011 04:32 PM #120