The Official Conference Realignment Rumors Thread

[waroriole]

I don't care what this does for football.

ACC basketball is going to be AWESOME!

Yep, they need to add UConn also. They probably shouldn't worry about football as much, just take the best basketball conference title.

Also, I wonder what happens with Kansas. Maybe Big 10?

[BaltimoreTerp]

Yep, they need to add UConn also. They probably shouldn't worry about football as much, just take the best basketball conference title.

Also, I wonder what happens with Kansas. Maybe Big 10?

If they weren't going to worry about football, they would've let Florida State go a long time ago and gone with the eight schools in place now. Of course, by the time this rolled around Clemson would be going to the SEC and Virginia and Maryland to the Big Ten and UNC and Duke to the Big East and the conference would be dead.

[andrewochs615]

Meanwhile WVU is getting screwed in all of this .. they better be on the move soon.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Meanwhile WVU is getting screwed in all of this .. they better be on the move soon.

Worst of all, they can't even get mad and burn a couch over it

[waroriole]

Meanwhile WVU is getting screwed in all of this .. they better be on the move soon.

They could be #14 in the SEC. If not, perhaps the Big 10.

[waroriole]

If they weren't going to worry about football, they would've let Florida State go a long time ago and gone with the eight schools in place now. Of course, by the time this rolled around Clemson would be going to the SEC and Virginia and Maryland to the Big Ten and UNC and Duke to the Big East and the conference would be dead.

I think you're taking that a bit too literally. They can view football as secondary to basketball.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I think you're taking that a bit too literally. They can view football as secondary to basketball.

That's my point, though. In this landscape, there is no such thing.

Frankly, I think that has been the issue with the Big East. They made football a secondary concern and built up an amazing stable of basketball schools. All of which is now in the trash.

In the presently-organized and -run NCAA, you are football or nothing.

[waroriole]

That's my point, though. In this landscape, there is no such thing.

Frankly, I think that has been the issue with the Big East. They made football a secondary concern and built up an amazing stable of basketball schools. All of which is now in the trash.

In the presently-organized and -run NCAA, you are football or nothing.

You're still not understanding. The Big East was all basketball after the ACC raid. The ACC still has good football programs (FSU, VT, Miami) making it a much different situation than the Big East. Unless the SEC raids the ACC, which doesn't seem too likely.

[PrivateO]

They could be #14 in the SEC. If not, perhaps the Big 10.

No way they get invited by the Big 10. Not with their academic reputation.

But good news for Mountaineers fans:
AKrumpEerSports Anthony Krumpach
EerSports.com reported earlier that WVU appears to have sent paperwork to the SEC, all signs point to WVU being accepted once A&M is settled

[PrivateO]

I still think the smart play is going after four of the basketball programs (Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's and either Providence or Seton Hall) to create essentially reformed "Big East" and "Atlantic Coast" divisions in basketball. Keep the history and rivalries for each side, but increase the overall quality of intraleague play.

Who? The Big East football members. Honestly, there isn't much history/rivalries anymore. Once Syracuse/Pitt/WVU leave, you're left with the basketball schools, 3 schools who joined 6 years ago (USF, UL, UC) and Rutgers (joined in '91) and UConn (original member). Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much history there.

[BaltimoreTerp]

You're still not understanding. The Big East was all basketball after the ACC raid. The ACC still has good football programs (FSU, VT, Miami) making it a much different situation than the Big East. Unless the SEC raids the ACC, which doesn't seem too likely.

In your original post (best basketball title), were you referring to the ACC (as I read it) or the Big East (which might explain the confusion)?

[BaltimoreTerp]

Who? The Big East football members. Honestly, there isn't much history/rivalries anymore. Once Syracuse/Pitt/WVU leave, you're left with the basketball schools, 3 schools who joined 6 years ago (USF, UL, UC) and Rutgers (joined in '91) and UConn (original member). Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much history there.

Huh?

I think the ACC should go after those four basketball schools in addition to the four football schools. That way, the conference can do this.

[PrivateO]

Huh?

I think the ACC should go after those four basketball schools in addition to the four football schools. That way, the conference can do this.

Oh, sorry BTerp. I was confused, I thought you meant that the combo of the Big 12/Big East football schools would bring the basketball schools with them. I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea (it'd clearly be the best basketball conference), but I just don't see this being a possibility. I don't think the ACC is going to become a hybrid conference. They saw how it failed with the Big East.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Oh, sorry BTerp. I was confused, I thought you meant that the a combo of the Big 12/Big East football schools would bring the basketball schools with them. I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea (it'd clearly be the best basketball conference), but I just don't see this being a possibility. I don't think the ACC is going to become a hybrid conference. They saw how it failed with the Big East.

It failed in the Big East because they tried to be a basketball conference that plays football. That is what the ACC was for most of their history, too, but they changed their minds when they brought in first Florida State and then the three Big East schools. They want to be a football conference, but they have also tried to have some consideration for the basketball side, too.

Adding the four basketball schools and keeping together most members of what has become a classic basketball conference, in addition to organizing the basketball side to include the historical ACC (plus FSU and Miami) would be the best of both worlds.

[PrivateO]

It failed in the Big East because they tried to be a basketball conference that plays football. That is what the ACC was for most of their history, too, but they changed their minds when they brought in first Florida State and then the three Big East schools. They want to be a football conference, but they have also tried to have some consideration for the basketball side, too.

Adding the four basketball schools and keeping together most members of what has become a classic basketball conference, in addition to organizing the basketball side to include the historical ACC (plus FSU and Miami) would be the best of both worlds.

It failed because there were too many opposing opinions. The basketball schools looked out for themselves, as the football schools did with each other. With 20 teams, you're bound to have even more bickering.