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09-20-2011 02:43 PM #166
That might be why the report hints at a mutual understanding that Mizzou would head to the SEC if and when the Big 12 imploded. I wouldn't be surprised if this is not an "offer" in the strictest sense of the word, but a nod-nod, wink-wink sort of deal. Missouri knows that the SEC will accept it if the Big 12 falls apart, and the SEC knows that Missouri will apply if the Big 12 falls apart, but neither has has happened yet.
That would also explain the outright rejection of West Virginia, at least for now. The SEC thinks it has a 14th team lined up, at least if the Big 12 dies, as everyone pretty much expects it to.
09-20-2011 03:22 PM #167
That's the most traditional program in the land. That tradition is where they hang their hat. No way are they going to change that now. I'd be disappointed if they did.
09-20-2011 04:03 PM #168Keys
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ND will probably end up in the Big Ten. But if they do, they may very well go the route of Penn State and wind up being also-rans or overshadowed by other programs. PSU has been on a pretty pronounced decline since going Big 10, albeit with a few spikes here and there.
They may also not be able to preserve some of their rivalries like the USC and Navy games. Plus they'll have to play the likes of Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana, and Northwestern -- have fun selling tickets to those games.
Even as a Pitt fan, I must say that I feel a little bad for WVU. The ACC rejected them because of academics, and the SEC rejected because of money/markets. Tough break, but as long as the NCAA keeps pretending to care about the books, WVU might have a rough go of it.
09-20-2011 04:08 PM #169
It wouldn't surprise me if the SEC gets Mizzou as #14, then takes WVU and Louisville as #15 and #16. Who knows, seeing that is appears they want Mizzou, maybe they'll complete the rivalry and bring in Kansas.
09-20-2011 04:10 PM #170Keys
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The irony about ND is that the Big East, at least in the short term, would have been the conference most accommodating to ND's "traditions" of playing OOC rivals. With less teams, ND would have had more OOC games in the Big East to keep playing USC, Navy, Boston College, and others. Now, if they end up in a 14 or 16 team Big 10, they probably won't have those chances to be a "national" power anymore. They'll end up being a regional midwest team, and lose the national exposure.
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09-20-2011 04:24 PM #173
In regards to Mizzou:ClayTravisBGID Clay Travis
SEC wants to wait for Big 12 to implode before pursuing Missouri. Not happy with leak.ClayTravisBGID Clay Travis
@Matt_HayesSN Yep, Missouri spoke out of turn. With legal issues, SEC likely furious.
The University of Oklahoma is considering remaining in the Big 12, but only in a “reformed” version of the conference that includes hard and fast rules for Texas' Longhorn Network and removal of Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, a high-ranking Big 12 source told The Oklahoman on Tuesday.
OU president David Boren said Monday the Sooners would decide soon between applying for Pac-12 membership or staying in the Big 12, and the source outlined the parameters for remaining in the Big 12.
“It's going to take major, major reforms” for OU, and thus Oklahoma State, to consider remaining in the Big 12, the source said. “We'd have to have an interim commissioner.”
09-20-2011 04:36 PM #174
Even if Texas gives in and Beebe resigns in shame, I still give that conference 5 years tops. Good luck getting anyone decent to join to replace Texas A&M, who it appears are still leaving no matter what. I'm sure they can find another doormat school who will let Texas push them around just for the money (SMU, Houston, Rice), but I bet even BYU would rather take the risk of being an independent than joining that motley crew.
09-20-2011 05:08 PM #175
Notre Dame and Uconn for me would be nice. I'd rather go get two football schools and not try and turn into the Big East of old with basketball powerhouses, look at them now.
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09-20-2011 06:32 PM #180
Some new links:
@PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
East Carolina (again) applied to the Big East today. They didn't want it a secret, as "50 people were copied on the e-mail. "No official invitation was extended by the league, but both parties had extensive discussions about Navy joining the league in football only and it very well could have happened in the next couple of weeks, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com.
Besides Navy, the Big East also was targeting Air Force and league sources felt confident both schools would have been Big East members, perhaps within the next year – that is until Pitt and Syracuse announced they were leaving for the ACC.However, with the Big East’s future now in limbo, it’s uncertain if Navy and/or Air Force will remain interested in joining either a Big East without Pitt and Syracuse or a merger of leftover teams from the Big East and Big 12 conferences. That is, in fact, if the Big 12 loses Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech to the Pac-12.