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01-04-2012 01:11 PM #241
WalterFootball.com had this to say:
Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
Congratulations to the Colts for winning the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. Losing to Blaine Gabbert proved to be difficult, but the players did what it took to ensure that this franchise will have great quarterbacking for at least another decade.
We all know this pick will be Andrew Luck. What we don't know is what will happen to Peyton Manning.
I don't think Manning will be back because he would count too much against the cap. I've been writing that the Chiefs are a possibility, but I now believe that the Redskins and Jets are the two favorites to land him in a trade (if possible) or free agency.
Regardless, Indianapolis is beginning anew with Luck.
This I don't see us being stupid enough to do! He is wacked in the head for even writing it.
Washington Redskins: Landry "Lance" Jones, QB, Oklahoma
This is a major reach, but most quarterbacks go much higher than they should on Draft Day. Just look at last April with Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder, or in previous years with Kyle Boller and J.P. Losman.
Unless Washington acquires Peyton Manning or Matt Flynn, it has to obtain a signal-caller in this spot because another year of Rex Grossman would be disastrous. Don't count out a trade either. Deals in the top five are now very possible because of the new CBA, so the Redskins could easily move up to No. 3 for Robert Griffin.
The Vikings, by the way, could target Riley Reiff, Dre Kirkpatrick or Quinton Coples down here, while possibly securing a first-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.
01-04-2012 01:26 PM #242
I would probably rather risk going with Flynn over Peyton if both FA, just because Flynn is younger and if you hit with him you could compete for 5-6 years, if you hit with Peyton you've got MAYBE 2 years in you and are back to looking for a QB.
01-04-2012 02:30 PM #243
Regarding jones: if Flynn and manning sign elsewhere, and luck and griffin are selected in the top 5, then I'd prefer to trade back like last year and get Tannehill. However, that is risky because someone might pick him earlier than he should go. I really believe they thought one of locker, ponder, or Dalton would be available in the 2nd last year.
I'm not trying to pretend, that I can evaluate qbs, but I really like what I've read about Tannehill. Though it would be very exciting to have RGIII as the face of the franchise.
01-04-2012 03:11 PM #244
I can't imagine Snyder letting an FA get away, if he is truly wanted by Shanahan, Allen, and Snyder. I think it they'll go the FA route. Trading up would cost too much.
I love the idea of trading down like we did last year. I also like grabbing a QB after the first round, but I think Moore should be that QB over any of the others out there projected for the later rounds. If we sign Manning, we need to grab a late round QB for depth.
01-04-2012 04:05 PM #245
In the hypothetical I made, I'm making the assumption that they aren't wild about Flynn and that manning is not a fit due to where they are in the rebuild and the related cost. Shanahan's had the opportunity to grab some of the other FAs like jc, vy, and Orton, but passed.
They have multiple 4ths and 5ths. I'd have no problem with grabbing Moore there as a 3rd qb. Another guy who is only two years removed from college that I'd take a flyer on is Tony pike. I don't even know if he's still in carolina or not,but I liked him coming out of cincy.
Just to get all crazy, what if the bears are ready to move on from cutler? They fired martz, but maybe that move was to appease cutler. However, after the MNF Detroit game, they did well when they decided that it may nice to leave in a blocker or two. Likelihood of that happening is probably less than 10%.
01-04-2012 07:37 PM #246
I should have clarified my statement about Flynn...
I was listening to the morning drive show on 980 AM in DC on Tuesday morning and they were all hanging on Flynn's jock. Seems like a lot of others are after Sunday, too. If you said he was a good fit before Sunday, that's fine.
I can't help but wonder what the past 15-16 years of Redskins football would look like if they had a stud franchise QB or two. After seeing how much Peyton Manning meant to the Colts, I've been thinking about what it'd be like if we had a great QB on some of these teams.
01-04-2012 07:48 PM #247
01-04-2012 08:48 PM #248
What do you guys think about Brandon Weeden from Okla State? He is 28 years old due to attempting to be a pro baseball player, but he is projected as a 3rd round pick. (Not as our first option, but maybe right there with Kellen Moore...)
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If it were up to me, I think I'd try to get Flynn via FA, draft Justin Blackman with our first round pick (assuming he's there), and take a flyer on Kelllen Moore in the 4th round.
There is zero chance of trading for Luck, and I'm not sure the cost to jump in front of Cleveland to get RG3 will be something this team is willing to do with the holes that still need to be filled on this team. JMO
01-05-2012 01:06 AM #253
01-05-2012 01:49 AM #254
I mean the success rate after the first round is TINY. Moore just stands out to me as an exception much like Brees did, that's why I would take a shot on him. (I would have taken a shot on Dalton last year in the 2nd too, but I followed him all year too.) I think a QB should be more of a known quantity if you're going to draft him, not a bargain pick late in the draft. If you take one late and after a couple years he develops, then cool, but spending higher than a 4th rounder for someone that's not a "slam-dunk" kind of pick I'm not a fan of.
It's just a weird quirk of mine, he might be a fine QB, but it's just a general rule I go by, and for the most part it's been right for me.
01-05-2012 11:16 AM #255