With the Bengals somewhat surprising success...

[ccbird]

If by that you mean he goes out plays the vast majority of games and throws passes then sure, but otherwise I'd like to know what this job he's getting done entails.

Is going 46-51 getting the job done? 0-2 in the playoffs? 86.9 QB rating? Low 80's since coming back from injury?

He's been in Cincy his whole career and found a way to get them to their only 2 playoff appearances in 20+ years. I don't think people realize just how bad that franchise is. Easily, one of the worst run in pro sports. He's not a Pro Bowl QB anymore but he's much better than what you have now and probably will be able to find for the near future.

[mweb]

He's been in Cincy his whole career and found a way to get them to their only 2 playoff appearances in 20+ years. I don't think people realize just how bad that franchise is. Easily, one of the worst run in pro sports.

I'll grant you 2005, but not 2009 when he was mediocre and the offense was 22nd in points and 24th in yards while the defense was 6th and 4th respectively.

Other than 2005 and 2006, he hasn't been that good.A lot of people also expected that team to be much better in 2006 and 2007 based on their talent and previous success.

[OrioleMagic]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/71...ls-sources-say

I am so glad the Skins didn't do this! The Raiders paid a very steep price. Why? They are crazy!

[allstar1579]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/71...ls-sources-say

I am so glad the Skins didn't do this! The Raiders paid a very steep price. Why? They are crazy!

I said there was no way Brown would let him go...I should have added, unless he was sending him somewhere as punishment. This is like sending him to purgatory and getting 2 first rounders to do it. Yikes.

[mweb]

I said there was no way Brown would let him go...I should have added, unless he was sending him somewhere as punishment. This is like sending him to purgatory and getting 2 first rounders to do it. Yikes.

Raiders aren't such a bad team to go to now imo.

But this move makes it worse since they'll be losing at least one 1st rounder.

[OrioleMagic]

Supposedly, he is going "home" because he met his wife at USC and she has family there. I think the ESPN article said Palmer was on phone w/ Brown convincing him to trade him to Raiders.

[Don Quixote]

He wasn't worth what they gave up. If the 'Skins implode, I'd like to see them pick up Landry Jones, if indeed he is in the '12 draft.

[xKHx]

Raiders are a more complete team then the skins. It's not purgatory anymore. The raiders will most likely be in the playoffs this year but that was a heck of a price to pay I agree.

[backwardsk]

Raiders are a more complete team then the skins. It's not purgatory anymore. The raiders will most likely be in the playoffs this year but that was a heck of a price to pay I agree.

Hmm, I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable with stating most likely. They'll compete, for sure, but they'll have to either beat out San Diego (a whale's vagina) or take a wild card spot from all but one of nyj/new/buffalo, Balt/Pitt/cinci and hou/tenn.

Not saying they won't do it, but there is a lot of work left to do.

[ccbird]

Maybe you guys can bring back MWeb's boy Jason Campbell.

[mweb]

Maybe you guys can bring back MWeb's boy Jason Campbell.

Not much difference the last few years statistically between him and Palmer.

Both are just ok QB's imo. Palmer used to be good before suffering injuries.