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12-08-2011 04:08 PM #273Shorebirds
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12-08-2011 04:10 PM #274
For those who say "maybe the Orioles saw something they liked in Eveland", the Orioles also "saw something they liked" with Adam Eaton and Garrett Atkins too. I know the GM was different, but the team is still the same.
12-08-2011 04:15 PM #275
12-08-2011 04:22 PM #276Keys
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I think many of us just see it as such a minor move and not worth getting upset over.
12-08-2011 04:24 PM #277
I even said, if you want to take a flier on him and bring him in for ST, go ahead. If you want him for AAA depth, go ahead.
Its just like TT...Its not that we acquired the player, its that you gave up anything of value, even if it is limited value, for someone you can get for free anytime.
Tony said he is better than JJ Reyes...Well, maybe he is...But who cares? How much better is he? Is he so much better than you give up a few players? Of course not. This was just a stupid move.
12-08-2011 04:31 PM #278
I think the real issue here is that SG and others believe we actually gave something of value up to get Teagarden and Eveland. Duquette pretty clearly didn't. Myself, I don't either and I don't even mind giving up Miclat. Players whose upside says utility guy are, as some here are so fond of saying, "a dime a dozen."
Every player we gave up was replaced in the draft (Henry/Martin vs. Wright/Simon), free agency or the Rule 5 (Miclat/Hudson vs. Antonelli/Tolleson/Flaherty). Not only were they all easily replaceable, they've already been replaced.
12-08-2011 04:34 PM #279
12-08-2011 04:36 PM #280
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12-08-2011 04:37 PM #281
You brought up Antonelli...What did we give up to get him? The answer is NOTHING.
And guess what, Antonelli has way more upside than TT or Eveland and we got him for FREE!!!
It just completely boggles my mind that people are actually ok with the Orioles giving up young arms for players that you can get for NOTHING all the time. How do you justify that? Tell me how that is intelligent.
And don't tell me Henry and Martin have no value...We traded guys like that for Hardy last year...They do have value. We got a guy like that as the 5th player in the Bedard deal. Those guys are always included in deals. Its just ridiculous to say they hold zero value. It shows a total lack of understanding and shows that you pay no attention to things.
12-08-2011 04:37 PM #282Plus Members Since 9/11 All-Star
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12-08-2011 04:40 PM #283
What the hell does Eveland represent? Why are in a hurry to TRADE for him? Are you worried that someone else swoops in and grabs him? And if so, why? How poor are you at evaluation that you don't think you can pick up his clone for free?
12-08-2011 04:45 PM #284
"He won 15 games this year between Triple-A and the big leagues,'' Duquette said. "He'd been up in the big leagues before as a starting pitcher, and he has gotten himself on track to compete for a starting job in spring training. We like his stuff. We like his durability and we like his experience.
He won three games and his ERA was in the 3's. The Dodgers signed (Aaron) Harang and that made him available."
"Lefties are always in demand," Duquette said. "He's a qualified major league pitcher, so we thought there's some value there to help our team. He has experience at the big leagues. You can look around in that book for left-handed pitchers who won 15 games last year and it's a short list. That was appealing to us. His stuff is pretty good. He's got a sinking fastball. He's got a pretty good breaking ball. And change of speeds. I think he's a good addition to our team."
Awesome. Putting a lot of weight into one short major league season.
12-08-2011 04:47 PM #285