Orioles Acquire Dana Eveland from Dodgers

[Sports Guy]

When Eveland was good in 2008, he threw almost 90 MPH on average...Last year, he was under 88.

[sakata_catching]

When Eveland was good in 2008, he threw almost 90 MPH on average...Last year, he was under 88.

He'll fit right in with Matusz and Tillman then.

[Scrat1]

Pauley was aquired in a trade for the awesomely named Randor Bierd.

I'll remember that stretch of the 2008 season fondly. Our bargain bin bullpen just dominated at the beginning of the season.

[Enjoy Terror]

Trust the Orioles! LOL...We are supposed to trust the worst organization in sports? Are you kidding me? Its absolutely mind boggling that anyone would say this is a good move on any level whatsoever.

So, the Orioles are finally doing something different... and it's still not good. You're making a huge issue out of moving minor leaguers who are C-prospects with limited potential and complaining about adding AAAA depth with them. That's not really a huge issue to be getting upset about. There are legitimate players in the O's system with real shots to be starters in the majors... and we haven't moved any of them to any other team. Huge non-issue here.

[Whammer]

When Eveland was good in 2008, he threw almost 90 MPH on average...Last year, he was under 88.

Hobgood has a new mentor.

[DuffMan]

This is a poor trade, but a very minor one.

Others have pointed this out, but it bears repeating. If DD is coming out the "loser" on these minor trades what's going to happen if/when he completes a more substantial trade.

Say what you want about MacPhail but I think we can all agree he wouldn't have given up 4 players for a back up C and a journeyman Pitcher.

[ba9oriole]

Well, Eveland is a lefty so that increases his chances and his usefulness if you're looking for a positive. He can be used in the pen and make a spot start.

[Capn Vivi]

I posted this in another thread, but anyone jumping off a bridge about Eveland should know he has SOME upside. Not much, but SOME.

In mentioning the difficulty of pitching at home in Albuquerque, I should post his splits (for those interested):

Away: 3.33ERA in 75.2IP 62H 4HR 28BB 56K 2.00 K/BB, 2.41 GO/AO, .226 BAA
Home: 5.40ERA in 78.1IP 89H 7HR 33BB 51K 1.54 K/BB, 2.83 GO/AO, .290 BAA

Eveland could be useful to us. He's actually capable of throwing 180+ innings and if his recent numbers are an indicator, he might just know how to pitch.

As to SG's observation that his velocity has decreased every season for 5 years, perhaps it has more to do with no longer trying to overpower hitters at the ML level? Clearly he's healthy and last year was his best season since 2008. Maybe Eveland is a different pitcher now than his career numbers indicate? Clearly that's what Duquette and his coaching staff are hoping.

As a comparison, Britton had a 2.94 GO/AO ratio in 153.1 IP in the minors in 2010.

Also, Eveland was 8th in the PCL amongst starters in ERA. The PCL League ERA, in fact, was 5.12 last year.

[jabba72]

Typical Orioles. In the end, noone wanted our slop for established major leaguers who were any good. Same story every year. DD would have had to pull a rabbit out of his hat to improve the pitching staff.

[DrungoHazewood]

Others have pointed this out, but it bears repeating. If DD is coming out the "loser" on these minor trades what's going to happen if/when he completes a more substantial trade.

Say what you want about MacPhail but I think we can all agree he wouldn't have given up 4 players for a back up C and a journeyman Pitcher.

I'm not willing to say that potentially losing some very minor deals means you're going to get your clock cleaned on larger trades. I know a lot of folks want to take everything to its logical conclusion and say that this brings a sense of doom and foreboding to the organization. But losing a trade 1.5 wins to 0.75 wins isn't the same thing as losing a trade 25 wins to 12, nor would the same processes or philosophies necessarily apply.

[Sports Guy]

So, the Orioles are finally doing something different... and it's still not good. You're making a huge issue out of moving minor leaguers who are C-prospects with limited potential and complaining about adding AAAA depth with them. That's not really a huge issue to be getting upset about. There are legitimate players in the O's system with real shots to be starters in the majors... and we haven't moved any of them to any other team. Huge non-issue here.

How is this something different?

[NewMarketSean]

The guy is garbage regardless of what we gave up for him. 29 innings last year means nothing...in LA, a pitchers park...in the NL to boot. SG said his velocity is down for a 5th straight year as well...his ERA, K and BB rates outside of those 29 IP last year are terrible. He's just another AAAA guy.

The only relevance to this deal I see is that we'll actually have "that AAAA guy" on the roster to replace the inevitable pitcher who gets hurt or is ineffective -- as opposed to waiting until some other team releases a similar guy, like we did with JoJo Reyes last year.

[MCO'sFan]

Come on guys! We traded two players who are likely never going to even make the big leagues for a guy who has all ready made the big leagues.When looking at the big picture, this trade really doesn't matter. SG you keep saying these guys had "value." We just saw their value. They get you a borderline pitcher who may or may not be the #5 starter on a bad team. To put it in more simple terms "they have no value".

[Whammer]

Typical Orioles. In the end, noone wanted our slop for established major leaguers who were any good. Same story every year. DD would have had to pull a rabbit out of his hat to improve the pitching staff.

I think you have summed it up perfectly. We couldn't shop our core (Adams, Weiters, Markakis, etc), young pitchers with promise (Arretia, Matusz, Britton) or prospects (Bundy, Machado, . . . ah did I mention Bundy and Machado). That leaves the usual suspects - Tillman, Bergy, Berken, Reimold, etc. and that, sir, will not get it done.

[grimed1]

How is this something different?

We used to sign guys who used to be pretty good in the majors. This year we have signed guys who are basically September call ups.