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    What are our competitors up to?

    I'm just curious what folks think of the moves our AL East rivals have made so far?

    Updated through 12/20 (moves since 12/8 are in bold). Things are oddly quiet in the AL East....

    Jays
    Exercised option on Edwin Encarnacion
    Declined option on Jon Rausch
    Acquired RHP Tristan Magnuson for cash considerations
    Acquired RHP Sergio Sanchez for Nestor Molina
    Acquired 2B Luis Valbuena for cash
    Claimed C Brian Jeroloman off waivers
    Claimed Cole Kimball off waivers
    Offered arbitration to Kelly Johnson - he accepted
    Selected INF Gabe Jacobo in Rule 5 draft
    Claimed Jim Hoey off waivers

    Rays
    Acquired RHP Josh Lueke and PTBNL for John Jaso
    Signed C Jose Molina to one-year contract
    Declined option on C Kelly Shoppach
    Exercised options on James Shields and Kyle Farnsworth
    Signed a long term deal with Matt Moore with options extending two years into free agency.
    Non-tendered Sonnanstine
    Acquired RHP Burk Badenhop for MiL C Jake Jefferies


    Red Sox
    Exercised option on SS Marco Scutaro
    Declined options on RHP Scott Atchison and RHP Dan Wheeler
    Offered arbitration to David Ortiz; he accepted
    Reached agreement with Andrew Miller on a one-year contract
    Signed C Kelly Shoppach to one-year contract
    Signed IF Nick Punto to two-year contract

    Acquired RHP Mark Melancon for SS Jed Lowrie and RHP Kyle Weiland

    Yankees
    Exercised options on Cano and Swisher
    Declined option on Marte
    Extended Sabathia
    Acquired LHP Cesar Cabral for cash considerations
    Selected Brad Meyers in Rule 5 draft
    Re-signed Freddy Garcia

    Toronto has been very active, mostly on small deals but they did acquire a relatively cheap closer who they can control for several years. I don't know much about Nestor Molina, but he must be pretty highly regarded to bring Santos to the Jays.

    I'm not sure I like the Jaso for Lueke trade, from Tampa's standpoint. I really like the Moore deal.

    Boston and NY haven't really done anything, except that the Yankees defintely did what they had to do and extended Sabathia. They played good defense on that one, I will admit.

    All in all, it's awfully quiet in the AL East.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    I'm just curious what folks think of the moves our AL East rivals have made so far?

    Jays
    Exercised option on Edwin Encarnacion
    Declined option on Jon Rausch
    Acquired RHP Tristan Magnuson for cash considerations
    Acquired RHP Sergio Sanchez for Nestor Molina
    Acquired 2B Luis Valbuena for cash
    Claimed C Brian Jeroloman off waivers
    Claimed Cole Kimball off waivers
    Offered arbitration to Kelly Johnson - he accepted
    Selected INF Gabe Jacobo in Rule 5 draft

    Rays
    Acquired RHP Josh Lueke and PTBNL for John Jaso
    Signed C Jose Molina to one-year contract
    Declined option on C Kelly Shoppach
    Exercised options on James Shields and Kyle Farnsworth

    Red Sox
    Exercised option on SS Marco Scutaro
    Declined options on RHP Scott Atchison and RHP Dan Wheeler
    Offered arbitration to David Ortiz; he accepted
    Reached agreement with Andrew Miller on a one-year contract

    Yankees
    Exercised options on Cano and Swisher
    Declined option on Marte
    Extended Sabathia
    Acquired LHP Cesar Cabral for cash considerations
    Selected RHP Brad Meyers in Rule 5 draft

    Toronto has been very active, mostly on small deals but they did acquire a relatively cheap closer who they can control for several years. I don't know much about Nestor Molina, but he must be pretty highly regarded to bring Santos to the Jays.

    I'm not sure I like the Jaso for Lueke trade, from Tampa's standpoint.

    Boston and NY haven't really done anything, except that the Yankees defintely did what they had to do and extended Sabathia. They played good defense on that one, I will admit.

    All in all, it's awfully quiet in the AL East.....
    Frobby - an overwhelming amount of time I agree with you except now. The problem with this premise is that we are competitive with them. We are not, thus need to do more..saying that, I believe our appearance of aggressiveness with int'l, scouts, etc. may prove to be better than what we could have acquired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rochester View Post
    Frobby - an overwhelming amount of time I agree with you except now. The problem with this premise is that we are competitive with them. We are not, thus need to do more..saying that, I believe our appearance of aggressiveness with int'l, scouts, etc. may prove to be better than what we could have acquired.
    I didn't have any agenda when I started this thread. I am not trying to say that our rivals have been quiet, therefore we can be quiet. I was just curious what they were up to. Nothing more.

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    The key point here, is that most teams are doing what the Orioles are doing this early in the offseason. The Pujols, Wilson, Reyes, et. al. type of adventures are not the norm.

    I for one am not going to freak out this early.

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    The Yanks also resigned Freddy Garcia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    I'm just curious what folks think of the moves our AL East rivals have made so far?

    Jays
    Exercised option on Edwin Encarnacion
    Declined option on Jon Rausch
    Acquired RHP Tristan Magnuson for cash considerations
    Acquired RHP Sergio Sanchez for Nestor Molina
    Acquired 2B Luis Valbuena for cash
    Claimed C Brian Jeroloman off waivers
    Claimed Cole Kimball off waivers
    Offered arbitration to Kelly Johnson - he accepted
    Selected INF Gabe Jacobo in Rule 5 draft

    Rays
    Acquired RHP Josh Lueke and PTBNL for John Jaso
    Signed C Jose Molina to one-year contract
    Declined option on C Kelly Shoppach
    Exercised options on James Shields and Kyle Farnsworth

    Red Sox
    Exercised option on SS Marco Scutaro
    Declined options on RHP Scott Atchison and RHP Dan Wheeler
    Offered arbitration to David Ortiz; he accepted
    Reached agreement with Andrew Miller on a one-year contract

    Yankees
    Exercised options on Cano and Swisher
    Declined option on Marte
    Extended Sabathia
    Acquired LHP Cesar Cabral for cash considerations
    Selected RHP Brad Meyers in Rule 5 draft

    Toronto has been very active, mostly on small deals but they did acquire a relatively cheap closer who they can control for several years. I don't know much about Nestor Molina, but he must be pretty highly regarded to bring Santos to the Jays.

    I'm not sure I like the Jaso for Lueke trade, from Tampa's standpoint.

    Boston and NY haven't really done anything, except that the Yankees defintely did what they had to do and extended Sabathia. They played good defense on that one, I will admit.

    All in all, it's awfully quiet in the AL East.....
    NY: Spent 400+ million on pitching in the few years
    BOS: Spent 300 million last year
    TAM: Built the best farm system in the league
    TOR: Become possibly the best talent acquisition team through trades in the last two years

    Saying no one has done much still puts us light years behind them. We can say slow and steady is the best organization building technique, but three of these teams don't do that and they are way ahead of us.

    I'd still be happy with Cespedes and Yu.

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    The Rays also extended Matt Moore today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimed1 View Post
    The Yanks also resigned Freddy Garcia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Babypowder View Post
    The Rays also extended Matt Moore today.
    Thanks for the reminders. I will add these.

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    DD has been on the job just over a month now (with thanksgiving thrown in between)....gotta think he is behind the typical pace of the offseason as a GM. The Orioles barely added a couple of FO pieces in the last week. Thinking January is going to be a much more productive month for the Orioles offseason.

    Agree with Rochester about the Orioles Int'l aggressiveness....looking forward to see how Cespedes and Darvish play out.

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    Didn't the Yankees sign Nakajima?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMarketSean View Post
    Didn't the Yankees sign Nakajima?
    They won the posting. I don't think he has been signed yet, has he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    I didn't have any agenda when I started this thread. I am not trying to say that our rivals have been quiet, therefore we can be quiet. I was just curious what they were up to. Nothing more.
    oh no, I did not think it was an agenda at all... I agreed but struck out trying to be amusing...

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    Kimball back with Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    I didn't have any agenda when I started this thread. I am not trying to say that our rivals have been quiet, therefore we can be quiet. I was just curious what they were up to. Nothing more.
    I take issue including the exercising options bit. I mean that really isn't activity so much as it is going through the motions. Those moves basically amount to the FO's saying "yes" or "no".

    Your premise is correct, we can not use the lack of overall activity as an excuse for ours. I would contend that the Orioles have been active, but those activities have not born fruit as of yet.

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    My guess is by the end of next week you'll be able to add Darvish's posting victory to one of the AL East teams (and it won't be us or Tampa)...

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