Quit with this Brees for MVP talk

[JDubs]

You guys are thinking too much about who the actual backup QBs are when considering who is most valuable. You should consider the offensive system and the amount of other talent on offense, but I am with mweb in that that quality of the backup shouldn't matter. As someone else said, Rodgers shouldn't be punished for having Flynn on the bench.

Think about it this way: say the backup QB for every single team is Kyle Boller. We'll call him a "replacement level" QB.

Agreed. Except if we are talking about replacement level, let's go with Mark Bulger circa 2010.

[mweb]

Yep.

And while I get why they did it, what kind of sense does it make for Rodgers to win the MVP but Brees to win the Offensive Player of the Year?

No sense at all.

If Brees was the better offensive player than he would also be the more valuable player.

[backwardsk]

No sense at all.

If Brees was the better offensive player than he would also be the more valuable player.

I think the voters believed that Brees was better offensively, but Rodgers made so many open field tackles on special teams put him over the top for MVP.

[ccbird]

MVP and OPOY is just never given to the same person anymore. Would love to know the last time it happened and how many times it's ever happened period.

[mweb]

MVP and OPOY is just never given to the same person anymore. Would love to know the last time it happened and how many times it's ever happened period.

I somewhat understand it if voters think the MVP is basically the best QB on a playoff team so they reward a RB or WR for the OPOY award, but if both guys play QB on really good teams, it doesn't make sense imo.

[ccbird]

MVP and OPOY is just never given to the same person anymore. Would love to know the last time it happened and how many times it's ever happened period.

I somewhat understand it if voters think the MVP is basically the best QB on a playoff team so they reward a RB or WR for the OPOY award, but if both guys play QB on really good teams, it doesn't make sense imo.

I was actually wrong. It happens more often than I thought.

'07, '10- Brady won both
'06- Tomlinson won both
'05 Alexander won both
'04 - Manning won both


It does seem like giving Brees the OPOY was a compromise as it was in '08 when Brees won the OPOY and Manning the MVP. I also agree that it doesn't make any sense.