1. #256
    dan-O's Avatar
    dan-O is online now Plus Member Since 07/08 Hall of Fame Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Baltimore
    Posts
    12,613
    Quote Originally Posted by LookinUp View Post
    Oh Lordy. StrawDawg was real. We're getting Prince and trading Jones. Done deal.
    I don't care who you are, a trade of Jones and a signing of Fielder would make the OH blow up like an orange and black super nova. And not one of us wouldn't be excited to watch the O's next season regardless of our feelings of how smart or not smart that would all be.

  2. #257
    Bradysburns is offline Plus Member Since 5/10 All-Star Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Severna Park, MD
    Posts
    2,668
    Quote Originally Posted by RZNJ View Post
    His strikeout numbers were down last year. They were pretty good the 3 prior seasons. I'm not sure how strikeouts translate from Japan. The talent certainly isn't as good but I bet most of the hitters over there are more contact oriented than many ML hitters.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=chen--001wei
    A lefty throwing 93-94 mph heat with great location - he's gonna strike some guys out. Also, I bet they like his delivery. The guy doesn't so much "wind up" as cock. The ball comes out of his hand extremely fast. I bet that makes it hard to pick up, especially for lefties but really for anyone. Love the signing. Finally, we have a realist in the front office, who is not afraid to acknowledge that not EVERY member of the Cavalry is going to stay on his horse when the arrows start flying.

  3. #258
    LookinUp's Avatar
    LookinUp is offline Plus Member Since 6/08 All-Star Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Bubble
    Posts
    8,039
    Quote Originally Posted by grimed1 View Post
    Who said? Perhaps one of the two.
    You. Almost verbatim, minus the substance.

  4. #259
    Frobby is offline Hangout Blogger Hall of Fame Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bethesda MD
    Posts
    59,022
    Quote Originally Posted by dan-O View Post
    I don't care who you are, a trade of Jones and a signing of Fielder would make the OH blow up like an orange and black super nova. And not one of us wouldn't be excited to watch the O's next season regardless of our feelings of how smart or not smart that would all be.
    I will admit, a Fielder acquisition would excite me whether it was smart or not. But if we are going to do that, I'm not that excited about trading Jones.

  5. #260
    NCRaven's Avatar
    NCRaven is offline Plus Member since 11/05 All-Star Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Hampstead
    Posts
    5,251
    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    I will admit, a Fielder acquisition would excite me whether it was smart or not. But if we are going to do that, I'm not that excited about trading Jones.
    Good point. Much more likely to see where that lineup/rotation gets us at the trade deadline and then decide what to do with Jones once DD knows how competitive that team could be. Having said that, as always, I'd trade anyone in the right deal with the likely exceptions of Wieters, Britton and Machado.

  6. #261
    dan-O's Avatar
    dan-O is online now Plus Member Since 07/08 Hall of Fame Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Baltimore
    Posts
    12,613
    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    I will admit, a Fielder acquisition would excite me whether it was smart or not. But if we are going to do that, I'm not that excited about trading Jones.
    Yeah, I mean, not to be all Trea on it, but it does seem counter-intuitive to trade Jones for prospects and then sign Fielder. Hard to gauge if DD is totally "yeah right" about Fielder or if there's something brewing because you can't really take him at his word. Same on the Jones front. Can't quite figure out what the whole plan is.

    Do we want to trade Jones for pitching and weaken the overall offense?
    Do we want to trade Jones for pitching and replace him (in a way) with Fielder?
    Do we want to keep both Jones and Fielder and roll with what we've got for pitching?

    Who knows.

  7. #262
    Can_of_corn's Avatar
    Can_of_corn is online now Plus Member since 12/09 Hall of Fame Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    18,338
    Quote Originally Posted by Bradysburns View Post
    A lefty throwing 93-94 mph heat with great location - he's gonna strike some guys out. Also, I bet they like his delivery. The guy doesn't so much "wind up" as cock. The ball comes out of his hand extremely fast. I bet that makes it hard to pick up, especially for lefties but really for anyone. Love the signing. Finally, we have a realist in the front office, who is not afraid to acknowledge that not EVERY member of the Cavalry is going to stay on his horse when the arrows start flying.
    That isn't who Chen is.

    No way the O's get a guy like that for 3/12. No way any team gets that on the open market for 3/12.

    You might want to rein in your expectations a touch.

  8. #263
    dan-O's Avatar
    dan-O is online now Plus Member Since 07/08 Hall of Fame Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Baltimore
    Posts
    12,613
    Quote Originally Posted by Can_of_corn View Post
    That isn't who Chen is.

    No way the O's get a guy like that for 3/12. No way any team gets that on the open market for 3/12.

    You might want to rein in your expectations a touch.
    That's what the videos say he is. I mean, he's right there doing it. Although I think it's probably more like 90-93.

  9. #264
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Hung on for the ride.
    Posts
    35,323
    Quote Originally Posted by LookinUp View Post
    Oh Lordy. StrawDawg was real. We're getting Prince and trading Jones. Done deal.
    Grimed1 is StrawDog

    Einhorn is Finkle

  10. #265
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Hung on for the ride.
    Posts
    35,323
    Quote Originally Posted by LookinUp View Post
    You. Almost verbatim, minus the substance.

    Well, it's not like he is an insider or anything.

  11. #266
    JayThomas is offline Plus Member since 04/11 Major League Starter Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,313
    I think an additional side-effect is going to be the trading away of some of the guys with no options remaining. Bergy and Eveland come to mind. Does Berken have any options left? We have too many guys to fit on the ML staff, and a bunch of these guys will not pass through waivers. Some of these guys have got to be traded. Is there any market during spring training when teams pitching plans start to suffer from attrition? Can we go into ST with what we have and trade off what we can't use towards the end of spring training?

    Oh yeah, great move picking up Chen by the way.

  12. #267
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Warrenton, Virginia
    Posts
    2,371
    This is one of those times where I actually think the Orioles have a chance to be good. I start thinking about Edwin Jackson and Fielder and how great that would be haha. Get it done DD. World Series let's go!!

  13. #268
    dan-O's Avatar
    dan-O is online now Plus Member Since 07/08 Hall of Fame Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Baltimore
    Posts
    12,613
    Quote Originally Posted by Orioles4Life21 View Post
    This is one of those times where I actually think the Orioles have a chance to be good. I start thinking about Edwin Jackson and Fielder and how great that would be haha. Get it done DD. World Series let's go!!
    Sure why not? I've always said, if you're going to go big, then Go Big. The O's have to pick a direction. They don't seem to be rebuilding, do they? So... let's Go Big, then.

  14. #269
    LA2's Avatar
    LA2 is offline Plus member - Major League Hangouter All-Star Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Miami & Queens, NY
    Posts
    9,407
    Lots of nice close-ups of Chen pitching here (song is in Japanese):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=a0KwxxwKOdA

    His wedding (starts at 0:24), in Chinese:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmv8...eature=related

  15. #270
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Warrenton, Virginia
    Posts
    2,371
    Quote Originally Posted by dan-O View Post
    Sure why not? I've always said, if you're going to go big, then Go Big. The O's have to pick a direction. They don't seem to be rebuilding, do they? So... let's Go Big, then.
    Exactly. I'm only 17 which isn't old enough for me to ever remember the Orioles being good. My best memories are us leading the division for a while in 05 and the last game against Boston this past September. That's really pathetic and I want something to get really excited about and I want it now! Haha

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

OriolesHangout.com is an unofficial site and not associated with the Baltimore Orioles and part of Hangout Ventures LLC. Copyright ©2013 | Privacy Policy | Advertise with us