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01-24-2012 11:17 AM #136
01-24-2012 11:17 AM #137
01-24-2012 11:23 AM #138
01-24-2012 11:27 AM #139
I think that Chen is going to be a very good signing at the end of the day.
I think Betemit could be a very useful and if the dollars are right could easily be packaged off in another deal later this year-next year. The Orioles need a high OBP bat in their lineup, if Betemit is a everyday DH type guy and while he has never batted "leadoff" he has a .340 OBP in his career when "leading off an inning" It could work if used correctly.
I don't like two years either, but I think Betemit could work for us after its all said and done.
And Edwin Jackson is still hovering out there.
01-24-2012 11:29 AM #140Plus Member since 7/09 All-Star
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If you look at the teams listed below you will see the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Mets Dodgers and now Angels. All of those teams are considered large market clubs. With that said, teams like the Twins, Rockies, Astros, Blue Jays, Nationals, Cardinals and Reds are not considered large market clubs and if they were in that class than Baltimore would be there too IMO. It is obvious that we could afford a guy like Fielder (without looking at the payroll of each team listed below at the time they signed/extended the listed player), but it is also obvious that the odds of us regretting the deal are much higher than us being excited about a 7/$140M+ contract by the time it is finished.
Rangers- Alex Rodriguez 10/$275M
Angels- Albert Pujols 10/$254M
Yankees- Alex Rodriguez 10/$252M
Yankees- Derek Jeter 10/$189M
Twins- Joe Mauer 10/$184M
Yankees-Mark Teixeira 8/$180M
Yankees- CC Sabathia 8/$161M
Red Sox- Manny Ramirez 8/$160M
Rockies- Troy Tulowitzski 10/$157.75M
Red Sox- Adrian Gonzalez 8/$154M
Tigers- Miguel Cabrera 8/$152.3M
Rockies- Todd Helton 10/$151.5M
Red Sox- Carl Crawford 7/$142M
Mets- Johan Santana 6/$137.5M
Cubs- Alfonso Soriano 8/$136M
Blue Jays- Vernon Wells 7/$126M
Giants- Barry Vito 7/$126M
Nationals- Jayson Werth 7/$126M
Phillies- Ryan Howard 5/$125M
Rockies- Mike Hampton 7/$121M
Phillies- Cliff Lee 5/$120M
Yankees- Jason Giambi 7/$120M
Cardinals- Matt Holiday 7/$120M
Mets- Carlos Beltran 7/$119M
Reds- Ken Griffey Jr. 9/$116.5M
Dodgers- Kevin Brown 7/$105M
Astros- Carlos Lee 6/$100M
Cardinals- Albert Pujols 7/$100M
01-24-2012 11:29 AM #141
01-24-2012 11:30 AM #142
I'm not just drinking kool aid here, I mean I agree Duq has done more internally and with scouting/development than with the product on the field. I get that. I just think "garbage" isn't accurate, and the offseason isn't over yet.
The starting rotation is looking deeper. None of these guys cost picks. All of them have solid OBP somewhere. The Japanese guys represent more activity internationally.
01-24-2012 11:32 AM #143
01-24-2012 11:33 AM #144
What you just said there was a whole lot of nothing.
They have added role players..that's it. Maybe Chen and Antonelli turn out to be something but other than those 2, these guys do very little to help us win more games.
They have kept the same team and added a few role players.
There is still no ML direction. There is still no hope of contention anytime soon because they haven't take any of the neccassary steps to make this team better for the long term.
01-24-2012 11:39 AM #145Plus Member Since 09/03 Hall of Fame
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01-24-2012 11:41 AM #146
01-24-2012 11:42 AM #147
01-24-2012 11:43 AM #148
But there shouldn't be a "priority". he should be doing both.
Now, I am not putting this all on Duquette because of how horrible Buck and PA are but, AS AN ORGANIZATION, what they have done with the ML team thus far this offseason, is awful.
01-24-2012 11:46 AM #149Aberdeen
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Think about what you just said and then try not get get upset.
The fact that your statement is even arguably true should be infuriating to every Orioles fan.
I'm not going to throw a victory party because we decided to start scouting asia...especially considering that area of the world has produced few actual impact players, and the one in question signed cheap.
Still not spending in the DR, WHERE AL THE TALENT IS.
Wilson Betemit. ugh
01-24-2012 11:50 AM #150
I guess I'm not exactly sure what you'd have them do to the current team - trade Jones and Guthrie? That's fine but then your ML team could take a step back this year, which goes against what you're saying about improving the team right now. You've been adamantly against Edwin Jackson. You're open to Fielder, but only at the right price. You've mentioned trading for Bourjos, which would be great, but I don't think the Angels want to do that, and probably not for Guthrie anyway. And you like Burnett.
So.. let's say for the ML team we get Jurrjens, Burnett, Prado, and something for Guthrie that isn't Bourjos. Subtract Jones, Guthrie, and whoever plays 2B. Is that an improvement? I would say you're treading water there at best in regards to the current ML team.