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    Definitely not a bad contract in my view.

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    $3 mil guaranteed is definitely palatable.

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    Yea, that's not too bad of a contract.

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    If that's the deal, I'm fine with it. Now I just hope he puts up an .889 OPS like he did in 2010 for KC!

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    Great signing at a very nice price! Excited to see Betemit/Reynolds/Davis at DH/3B/1B this year.

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    ZiPS is not a fan -- it is projecting .252/.314/.412.
    Bill James likes him better, projecting .265/.333/.437

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    Quote Originally Posted by erb8472 View Post
    My guess is they gave him a guranteed $3M with an option for $3M or $500k buyout.
    Quote Originally Posted by os_cef View Post
    per Eduardo A. Encina on twitter:

    deal is worth $3million over years, could grow to $6 million w/ 2014 vesting option based on perf. incentives.

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    Thank you, Thank you.

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    It may be a bit rosy, but I view the signings of Chavez and Betemit as a cumulative +4-5 win move.

    Chavez + Betemit = 2.5 WAR
    replacing all of Vlad, Scott, Angle, Hudson, Bell, Hudson, Fox, Pie = combined negative 2-3 WAR
    Total = +4-5 WAR

    If these signings do nothing but remove replacement to below replacement value players from the big league club (and for little money), how can the moves be viewed as anything but positive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Say O! View Post
    It may be a bit rosy, but I view the signings of Chavez and Betemit as a cumulative +4-5 win move.

    Chavez + Betemit = 2.5 WAR
    replacing all of Vlad, Scott, Angle, Hudson, Bell, Hudson, Fox, Pie = combined negative 2-3 WAR
    Total = +4-5 WAR

    If these signings do nothing but remove replacement to below replacement value players from the big league club (and for little money), how can the moves be viewed as anything but positive?
    Chavez and Betemit combined will get about as many PA as Vlad got last year, IMO. We will end up giving some PA to guys like Angle, Hudson, Bell, etc., either when injuries arise or in September. And remember, Chavez had a very strong year in Texas but is likely to revert to his career average this year. If it's a 2 win improvement, I'd be satsified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by os_cef View Post
    Definitely not a bad contract in my view.
    Its not a bad contract but was it a neccassary signing?

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    Good signing. Adds depth to the infield that is needed because of the question mark that is BROB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    Its not a bad contract but was it a neccassary signing?
    Absolutely not. I would much rather spend $3 million on the draft or internationally than spend it to gain maybe an extra win in the majors over the next 2 years.

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    That gives us the Dominican player DD promised. Check

    TOR starter to come?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sports Guy View Post
    Its not a bad contract but was it a neccassary signing?
    Guess it depends what you mean by "necessary." We are required/allowed to have 25 men on the active roster, after all. And, if they, Duquette and Showalter, feel Betemit at 2/$3mil is better than the other cost/talent combinations available, including internal alternatives, then yes, in their eyes this move or a similar one was necessary.

    Switch hitter, able to play corner IF and OF positions, and satisfied with a supporting role at a very reasonable salary. He can fill a role on many ML rosters, and ours, as well.

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    I think it is a necessary signing. He has played SS in his career and if Hardy (who has been injury prone in the past) goes down we will need somebody to play there. You might be thinking Andino could fill that role, and he could, but if BROB isn't healthy he will be playing secondbase.

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