1. 01-24-2012 03:54 PM #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by flashjordnk View Post
    If he's used as a roleplayer and takes up most of the at bats vs. lefties where he hit 303/365/500 last year. Or his career 277/348/469 vs lefties, it seems like something the Orioles could definitely use.

    As long as he doesn't turn into a regular full time player, I don't think there is much wrong with the signing.
    You got that mixed up. So he should mostly play against righties.
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  2. 01-24-2012 03:59 PM #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by mweb View Post
    You got that mixed up. So he should mostly play against righties.
    Ha...yes. That was backwards. He's got good splits vs. righties though. For that cost, it seems pretty valuable.
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  3. 01-24-2012 04:00 PM #228
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    I actually like this move assuming they are using him mostly as a DH as Duq said and if they use him primarily against righties. If he can continue to hit righties like he has the past two years (.869 OPS) or even just to his career level (.817), he will be valuable. Just don't let him play against lefties much or play the field much. It's great that he can play almost any position in a pinch, but we don't want him playing the field consistently.
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  4. 01-24-2012 04:09 PM #229
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    Good signing at that price. This will give us something to banter about at the trade deadline. Hopefully he crushes the ball up to that point.

    His career at OPACY: 364/400/515/915
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  5. 01-24-2012 04:14 PM #230
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    Solid utility player. Hard to disagree with this signing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byrdz View Post
    Good signing at that price. This will give us something to banter about at the trade deadline. Hopefully he crushes the ball up to that point.

    His career at OPACY: 364/400/515/915

    But that is against Orioles pitching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluerocksfan View Post
    I think it is a necessary signing. He has played SS in his career and if Hardy (who has been injury prone in the past) goes down we will need somebody to play there. You might be thinking Andino could fill that role, and he could, but if BROB isn't healthy he will be playing secondbase.
    That's not necessarily true. They have Antonelli, Adams and the Rule V kid. I think it's likely at this point Andino will remain in that super sub role Buck envisions for him and be the primary backup for Hardy at SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vab View Post
    That's not necessarily true. They have Antonelli, Adams and the Rule V kid. I think it's likely at this point Andino will remain in that super sub role Buck envisions for him and be the primary backup for Hardy at SS.
    On, Base, Percentage. He said he was going to get some. The alternative was 6.5 for Damon, who is ONLY a DH. Good value signing that gives us part of what we needed. At age thirty, the three million can be applied as this year's payrool number an he is free for next season if we wish to drop him. There is no buyout, only a vesting option.

    Essentially BROB numbers without the steals. Defensively very similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Can_of_corn View Post
    But that is against Orioles pitching.
    Yeah I know, but not every player hits with a 900 OPS against Orioles pitching, so I thinks it's worth a small note.
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  10. 01-24-2012 05:39 PM #235
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    The option is really interesting on this deal... Reportedly it is $3.25m for two years and if he has 700 AB's the third year kicks in at $3.2m. Has anyone ever heard of that kind of deal? (Especially that sort of percentage.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange View Post
    The option is really interesting on this deal... Reportedly it is $3.25m for two years and if he has 700 AB's the third year kicks in at $3.2m. Has anyone ever heard of that kind of deal? (Especially that sort of percentage.)
    Where are you seeing this reported? I like the deal, though 700 PA is a pretty low threhhold Betemit will probably meet.
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    The best part of this deal is it means no Manny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    Where are you seeing this reported? I like the deal, though 700 PA is a pretty low threhhold Betemit will probably meet.
    He has never had 700 plate appearances in any two consecutive seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrungoHazewood View Post
    He has never had 700 plate appearances in any two consecutive seasons.
    Looking at the current makeup of our team, he'd be hard-pressed not to get 400 PA next year if he stays healthy.
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    450 PA of an 800 OPS vs righties is not completely worthless. From what I've read (Twitter is just the worst for trying to understand a situation), he's getting 2 years and 3M with some combination of a vesting third year and incentives that could bring the total contract to 3 years and 6M.

    I am completely neutral on this deal. But, like, why? Why do it? I don't understand.
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