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    Or is it to free up some money for one of the Cuban players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clapdiddy View Post
    We do? Seems like Hammel is the replacement for Guts.
    Eh, I'd rather have Jurrjens than Guthrie or Hammel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Owl View Post
    Or is it to free up some money for one of the Cuban players?
    Hopefully they can pitch.

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    This Duquette throwing in the towel on the the Orioles being anything but a last place team in 2012. He traded away the team's best pitcher in order to get a pitcher he "hopes" will be as good as Guthrie while gaining an extra year and some salary relief. He also added a run of the mill reliever that he has to pay $3.3 million for.

    Say what you wanted about MacPhail, he never made a trade that had me scratching my head. Duquette has done some good things with the core of this team, but his trading skills leave a lot to be desired if this is the kinds of trades we can expect.

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    So who is the OD starter? Chen? Britton? There is no certainty in the rotation at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Owl View Post
    Or is it to free up some money for one of the Cuban players?
    The Orioles should not be clearing money for anyone. they were willing to offer Fielder over $20 million a year. They have the money, they just choose not to spend it.

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    I wonder if unofficially Wada and Chen are now penciled in as 2 of our 5 starters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .500_OR_BETTER View Post
    Finally, some good news...


    I don't know why people hated Rapada so much. He was one-dimensional for sure and I am not sure what value that brings to a 69 win team, but how many players do the Orioles have that are automatic at anything. Rapada vs Lefties was automatic.

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    I just can't wrap my head around this trade. WHY!?!?!?!?

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    Why do I get the feeling if DD decides to make a corresponding move it won't be until 2 weeks from now.

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    Not sure what the Orioles really gain from Guthrie trade, in the big picture. Taking a second-tier prospect to grow with makes more sense.

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    This trade sucks. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinlstn View Post
    I wonder if unofficially Wada and Chen are now penciled in as 2 of our 5 starters?
    Personally, I think they always were. Chen is a lock for the rotation and I always had a feeling that Wada was promised a spot as well, at least to start the season.

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    There is no way to find some hidden value in this trade. DD wanted depth. I thought he meant minor league depth. The MLB roster only holds 25 DD! What the heck are you doing? Does Rick Peterson know something about Hammel that no one else in MLB does?

    I doubt it. I've just lost hope and confidence in DD on this one. Why would Hammel and Lindstrom carry more value than prospects? Even if they were lesser prospects than we wanted?


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    Well, good luck to Guthrie in Colorado. I'll be rooting for him.

    I don't get this trade. On the surface it looks like a wash and I have to be honest, I think I'd rather have Guthrie.

    Maybe it works out, maybe DD can flip them to another team for a decent prospect, either now or at the deadline.

    So far, DD's trade abilities are lackluster.

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