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02-07-2012 11:43 AM #526
02-07-2012 11:45 AM #527
Masons ports.com is getting old. They never break any news....the sun beats them to the punch on everything. Plus there are doubts about what they can/will write.
02-07-2012 11:46 AM #528
02-07-2012 11:46 AM #529Plus Member Hall of Fame
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If DD had made up his mind to move Guts, this would seem to be a pretty respectable return.
If DD or others wanted to roll the dice and hope for a prospect or two for Guts at the deadline or a possible draft pick next year, this would seem to be a pretty respectable return instead.
Not saying DD turned a lemon into lemonade, and while the trade could backfire with Guts pitching well outside the ALEast and Hammel getting pummeled, it seems the likely result is that this trade is a small positive for the Os.
02-07-2012 11:47 AM #530
02-07-2012 11:50 AM #531
Oh well, it is what it is...We just have to hope that Hammel gets back to where he was in 2009 and 2010 and that Lindstrom is as good as he was last year.
02-07-2012 11:52 AM #532
Melewski's strongest point was made when he flipped the coin; no one on this board would trade for Jeremy Guthrie if it meant having to sacrifice a prospect of any value. This place would burn to the ground if the Orioles even traded a B- guy like Mahoney for Guthrie, let alone someone of any real worth.
02-07-2012 11:53 AM #533
02-07-2012 11:58 AM #534
02-07-2012 12:00 PM #535
This deal doesn't net us Prince Fielder. What it does net us is the chance to get several bites at the apple, instead of just one.
I really can't envision a scenario where a team is taking on $4+million of Guthrie's salary in July AND they give us worthy prospects. Guthrie would have to be having a career year for that to even be possible, and I still don't buy it because he simply doesn't have swing and miss stuff and people know that and don't want to rely on that in a playoff race.
02-07-2012 12:07 PM #536
Teams see him as an innings eater that will keep you in most games and a guy that can be very good. If the Orioles have to eat 1-2 million, so be it..not a big deal.
02-07-2012 12:11 PM #537
02-07-2012 12:17 PM #538
02-07-2012 12:19 PM #539The Orioles are 6-0 in hearings with general counsel H. Russell Smouse. And I can't hear that name without thinking of Mike Flanagan saying, "Not a creature was stirring, not even Russell Smouse."
If the Orioles had gone to arbitration yesterday with Jeremy Guthrie, one of their primary arguments against him would have been how so few of his losses were bullpen-related. I haven't looked it up, but it's somewhere around none - for what that's worth.
02-07-2012 12:25 PM #540