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02-13-2012 01:51 PM #181
02-13-2012 02:05 PM #182
02-13-2012 02:13 PM #183
I just hope this can be worked out.
02-13-2012 02:17 PM #184
At this point (and being a former season ticket holder) the Orioles would have to pay ME to go to a game.
02-13-2012 02:28 PM #185
02-13-2012 02:35 PM #186
They also aren't obligated to discount tickets for this site.
That being said, the Orioles are completely out of touch with their fans and have been for some time.
It was obvious when i worked down there and its obvious that this trend continues.
There are a lot of good people down there...I personally never met Greg but he was always very well liked and respected and I appreciate him coming on here and sharing their side.
That being said, no one cares what your reasoning is...All people care about is how PA has taken one of the best organizations in all of MLB and made them a laughing stock. They are the worst franchise in the sport and are the furthest away from contention than any of the teams in pro sports....So, until the Orioles do things properly, any little thing like this will be thrown back in their faces....and they deserve every little bit of it.
Of course, you would figure that they would figure this out and try to change how they operate but we all know that's not going to happen.
Last edited by Sports Guy; 02-13-2012 at 02:39 PM.
02-13-2012 02:39 PM #187
I have to agree with SportsGuy though...I somehow doubt Mr. Angelos goes to bed angry every night like most of us on here do. We live and die by this team. For some of us, our morning attitude is based on how the Birds did the night before. For you all its a business. For us, as fans, we give our hard earned money to root on the Orioles, and we have done so irregardless of their record. We just want to see some real honest to goodness effort put into fielding a winning team, and from where we sit, that effort has not matched what other teams in the division are doing.
But anyway, I don't mean to derail the thread, and we do appreciate your comments.
Last edited by Dipper9; 02-13-2012 at 02:43 PM.
02-13-2012 02:48 PM #188
The sooner they figure out it is more then just a business the sooner they get back to winning..... by the way the successful "businesses" in the MLB havent had 14 straight losing seasons.
02-13-2012 03:09 PM #189
Since Greg decided to make a pre-emptive strike, I will gladly respond, but unfortunately it won't be until tonight. I was hoping to keep the actual business side out of this, but since he has decided to make it known, I will be happy to respond. Greg is very good at presenting his view of the situation but as you can all guess, actually bringing up financial terms in a public forum is unprofessional and tells you a lot about his character. He will do anything to protect an organization that he works for. That's his job so please take that into consideration when reading his propaganda.
02-13-2012 03:11 PM #190
I realize that budgeting doesn't really work this way but it's upsetting that the franchise wastes millions and millions on guys like Gregg and Baez and suddenly it's a crafty business decision to not support the Hangout.
02-13-2012 03:13 PM #191
02-13-2012 03:15 PM #192
02-13-2012 03:16 PM #193
Your response and explanation is greatly appreciated. It's always nice to hear both sides, but moreover, it's nice to see someone in the Orioles front office take the time to interact with the (dwindling) fanbase.
I completely understand that the Orioles are a business, and must make sound, sometimes tough decisions with regards to expenses, just like any other business. However, I would hope that when looking at the numbers, the "powers that be" make a decision based on more than just the mathematics of the situation. Many times over the years, ownership has made promises regarding the on field performance.... Lines such as "I know you have heard this before, but this time, it will literarly come true" and promising to be "right in the faces" of the Red Sox and Yankees ring in our minds as nothing but lip service at best, outright lies at worst. As you are well aware, the unacceptable product over the past 14 years has rendered the Orioles' fanbase largely apathetic. Quite honestly, it looks like we're in for another summer of playing out a 15th straight losing season (despite a promise from Mr. Duquette to the contrary - we've heard it before), so I don't see how that will improve the situation.
With all that said, I would hope that the "powers that be" look a little deeper than the numbers when considering their level of support for the Hangout. If the Orioles' product simply sold itself, I could more easily accept a "business decision" to cut funding to a fan site such as this. However, the Orioles' product does a better job of selling Washington Nationals fandom or looking forward to Ravens' camp than it does selling the Orioles' name. Therefore, throwing a bone to one of the last groups of hardcore Orioles fans that still cares enough to follow every move of this franchise should be seen as a lot more valuable to the franchise than making a quick budget cut. Keep in mind, this last remaining group of fans DOES follow everything Orioles, so we are also well aware of the "payroll flexibility" that Mr. Duquette has created. That, combined with the above makes it A LOT harder for us fans to accept this as simply a "business decision" that must be made.
Again, thank you for your response. In no way are any of the harsh words directed toward you personally! I don't think it's any stretch to say that Orioles' fans feel kicked in the teeth repeatedly by this organization, and the collective response to this decision is a result of that accumulated frustration and anger. Hopefully, you can convey that to others in the warehouse. Again, thank you for your side of things.
02-13-2012 03:18 PM #194
02-13-2012 03:19 PM #195Plus Member Since 02/09 Major League Starter
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I am so disgusted with this team and franchise. Not a single decent trade, signing, or anything this year. They seriously considered Manny Ramirez! Our GM must still think its 2003 with some of his signings. How many guys can we sign that have been out of baseball for several years...who does that?
But yet, you're going to come onto a diehard message board and disclose the financial terms and discuss negotiations? Ridiculous