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02-13-2012 03:19 PM #196Released Released
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02-13-2012 03:28 PM #202
Can you really blame Tony for being pissed off? Disclosing information like that might affect the rest of his advertising sales, at a minimum.
And of course there's the whole "Hey I've dedicated over a decade and a half of my life to this team" angle. Not even as a fan. This is his business, his lifeblood, his bread 'n' butter (well I'm pretty sure it is so I apologize if I'm wrong). I feel angry when I think about the general disregard for the fans, imagine how he feels when he's investing even more than just loyalty.
02-13-2012 03:30 PM #203Hangout Blogger Hall of Fame
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I believe you when you say that the decision to cut advertising and other forms of support for Orioles Hangout was purely a business decision.
I hope you believe me when I tell you, I think the Orioles are going to find it was a very poor business decision. Just like a lot of poor business decisions the Orioles have made over the last 15 years.
02-13-2012 03:31 PM #204
After reading Greg Bader's posts, and Tony's brief, but obviously angry reply (with the promise of more to come), I have to say this has taken on the appearance of a pending divorce. Not good for either party involved, or the Orioles' fan base.
02-13-2012 03:31 PM #205
Trust me, the Orioles would not even commit to any Hangout nights so all of that stuff from Greg must be his internal thoughts, not what he was telling me. All they kept doing was putting us off. We normally have a deal done by December for the next season. Greg constantly kept blowing me off with cryptic e-mails and non-responses. I would have to follow up my e-mails and or proposals with more e-mails asking him for some feedback. After 7-8 years of doing business, you would think we earned a little more respect than that. Either way, Greg kept pushing us off, and pushing us off so I sent him an e-mail asking him for a commitment for Hangout nights because I know people need to make plans because some come in from out of state. My last proposal included three Hangout nights down from 6 and 25% cut of advertising dollars. I was given a response that they were not comfortable with that as well I asked what were they comfortable with and I was again not given an offer.
Everything I've done over the years with the Hangout was in the best interest of Orioles fans. Heck, the Hangout has always been about and for Orioles fans. The Orioles can blow millions of dollars every year, but they want to cut back on one of the last bastions of die-hard fans by cutting about their support for Hangout nights and their advertising dollars, the very dollars that go back into paying for the coverage your guys have gotten over the last 7-8 years.
I'm sorry this is all becoming public, but since Greg decided to be unprofessional by posting some financial aspects of our dealings, I figured all of the truth will have to be spilled. I will have more later.
02-13-2012 03:34 PM #206
The Orioles are pretty much infamous for saying "look at all we've done!" to re-direct blame away from themselves. They've done it by low-balling free agents for years and now they're doing it by mentioning how much they've spent on advertising with the Hangout.
That's not surprising.
But I do believe the truth here exists somewhere in the middle. If the Orioles want to spend less to support the Hangout, or whatever they are doing, that's their decision. I believe it is a poor one, though.
I also wonder how much this business decision has coincided with the Hangout's collective excitement over the Orioles being at all-time lows.
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02-13-2012 03:34 PM #208
This is so sad. I just joined this site a year ago, but it's the one place where I can go and know that I can talk Orioles with other die hard fans. I have seen in just the past year the feeling about the Orioles reach an all time negative amongst fans. I have a feeling that this whole situation is going to make things even worse.
02-13-2012 03:37 PM #209
Well like I said, if they don't want to advertise that is their business. But the reluctance to commit to ANY Hangout Nights and the lack of responses is a pretty crappy way to treat someone you've been doing business with for several years.
02-13-2012 03:41 PM #210