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    1 espn headline writer fired, one suspened for thirty days.

    We have all heard the saying "chink in the armor." With that being an actual saying do you agree with the firing? I agreed with it but my wife stated that if its an actual saying they they use sometimes in sports she could see how they would get suspended but not fired. What say you a fire-able offense, suspended or nothing at all?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...sEnabled=false

    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7...y-lin-comments


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    I think it depends entirely on what the editor thought. If they absolutely, positively swore on the souls of every family member back 100 generations that they meant it literally as finding a weakness in his game, and I had no reason to suspect otherwise, then I would likely suspend them. Anything else, and they go. Even as someone who doesn't like to think in terms of "correct" speech, there are times when it just isn't necessary and does far more harm than good.

    I mean, if James Shields throws a perfect game, and an editor tried to make a pun off of a particular synonym for "stingy", that person would get dragged into the street and shot by their own company and THEN the NAACP would go to work on them.

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    I really don't think anyone should have been fired. I think a suspension would have been sufficient.

    There is no way of proving any malice and that is a term I've heard before. Unless they admitted to it, which I doubt, the one may have a lawsuit.

    This is coming from a guy who dated a Chinese girl for 3 years. People really do not realize how hurtful their words and actions can be sometimes. People take their fingers and slant their eyes, make fun of the way they talk, etc.. It's not appropriate, but a lot of people dont even realize that they are doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaltimoreTerp View Post
    I think it depends entirely on what the editor thought. If they absolutely, positively swore on the souls of every family member back 100 generations that they meant it literally as finding a weakness in his game, and I had no reason to suspect otherwise, then I would likely suspend them. Anything else, and they go. Even as someone who doesn't like to think in terms of "correct" speech, there are times when it just isn't necessary and does far more harm than good.

    I mean, if James Shields throws a perfect game, and an editor tried to make a pun off of a particular synonym for "stingy", that person would get dragged into the street and shot by their own company and THEN the NAACP would go to work on them.
    Its funny you say this because last night on SNL......


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    Quote Originally Posted by xKHx View Post
    Its funny you say this because last night on SNL......
    Don't often see the words funny and SNL in the same sentence anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Can_of_corn View Post
    Don't often see the words funny and SNL in the same sentence anymore.
    I maybe in the MINORITY but I found this skit funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Can_of_corn View Post
    Don't often see the words funny and SNL in the same sentence anymore.
    I thought SNL was unfunny before everyone else thought SNL was unfunny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Snutchy View Post
    I really don't think anyone should have been fired. I think a suspension would have been sufficient.

    There is no way of proving any malice and that is a term I've heard before. Unless they admitted to it, which I doubt, the one may have a lawsuit.

    This is coming from a guy who dated a Chinese girl for 3 years. People really do not realize how hurtful their words and actions can be sometimes. People take their fingers and slant their eyes, make fun of the way they talk, etc.. It's not appropriate, but a lot of people dont even realize that they are doing it.
    I agree with your take, though I doubt Lin would be offended by it considering this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaltimoreTerp View Post
    I think it depends entirely on what the editor thought. If they absolutely, positively swore on the souls of every family member back 100 generations that they meant it literally as finding a weakness in his game, and I had no reason to suspect otherwise, then I would likely suspend them. Anything else, and they go. Even as someone who doesn't like to think in terms of "correct" speech, there are times when it just isn't necessary and does far more harm than good.

    I mean, if James Shields throws a perfect game, and an editor tried to make a pun off of a particular synonym for "stingy", that person would get dragged into the street and shot by their own company and THEN the NAACP would go to work on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Snutchy View Post
    I really don't think anyone should have been fired. I think a suspension would have been sufficient.

    There is no way of proving any malice and that is a term I've heard before. Unless they admitted to it, which I doubt, the one may have a lawsuit.

    This is coming from a guy who dated a Chinese girl for 3 years. People really do not realize how hurtful their words and actions can be sometimes. People take their fingers and slant their eyes, make fun of the way they talk, etc.. It's not appropriate, but a lot of people dont even realize that they are doing it.
    I think the one thing to take in to consideration is that both writer and editor should have been WELL aware of the fact that punning has been rampant around Lin for this little phenomenon. Even if there was no ill intention meant, the fact that it made it to publication shows an amazing lack of, well, editing skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaltimoreTerp View Post
    I thought SNL was unfunny before everyone else thought SNL was unfunny...
    Well I'll do you all one better, I'm apparently the one guy left in America who's liked SNL consistently for years. I watch it every week. I thought they did a good job with the Lin thing last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Well I'll do you all one better, I'm apparently the one guy left in America who's liked SNL consistently for years. I watch it every week. I thought they did a good job with the Lin thing last night.
    Oh, I do too. I watch every week, because I usually enjoy it. I was just making the hipster, it's-been-cool-to-mock-SNL-every-year-since-'75 joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wedge View Post
    I think the one thing to take in to consideration is that both writer and editor should have been WELL aware of the fact that punning has been rampant around Lin for this little phenomenon. Even if there was no ill intention meant, the fact that it made it to publication shows an amazing lack of, well, editing skills.
    This is exactly how I feel about it. The editors job is to see things from all angles and, even in the best possible light, this editor missed a pretty big angle. He's was not fired because management thinks he is a racist. He was fired because he was bad at his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaltimoreTerp View Post
    I mean, if James Shields throws a perfect game, and an editor tried to make a pun off of a particular synonym for "stingy", that person would get dragged into the street and shot by their own company and THEN the NAACP would go to work on them.
    I was never a big KML fan, but they did have a great bit one time in which Lopez was doing the news and used the word "niggling". Kirk of course asked him to repeat that and clarify it - Lopez defined the word, and said "Don't you hate it when a new family moves into your neighborhood and you find out they're a bunch of nigglers?" And of course they went on from there.

    Anyway, this story - it took me a few seconds to even figure out what the controversy was. Definitely a very common phrase and if I were an editor I wouldn't even have thought twice about it. But I do understand others' point that an editor's job is to be more aware of things like that. I think a firing was an overreaction, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Well I'll do you all one better, I'm apparently the one guy left in America who's liked SNL consistently for years. I watch it every week. I thought they did a good job with the Lin thing last night.
    Me too. Not saying everyone should love it or hate it, but it's sorta become one of those trendy things to hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamwolff11 View Post
    Me too. Not saying everyone should love it or hate it, but it's sorta become one of those trendy things to hate.
    My hate wanes and waxes with the quality of the cast. I don't care for the current cast at all.

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