Stoglin makes All ACC second team; Faust on all freshman team

[Sports Guy]

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskb...030512aai.html

[The Epic]

Rivers over Marshall and Stoglin? I...I don't see it.

[Tony-OH]

Typical biased All-ACC team. If Stoglin was on NC or Duke he's easily all ACC. When was the last time the scoring leader did not make 1st team?

[tylerfrombelair]

Rivers over Stoglin/Marshall for first team is a joke. Besides his dominant game against UNC he really hasn't been deserving of first team. The player who deserves first team over Rivers if it's going to be a guard is Kendall Marshall. He makes the UNC offense go, and without him UNC would be the third best team in the ACC. Zeller wouldn't be as dominant in the paint without Marshall, nor Henson. Marshall lead the ACC with 9.6 assist per game, which is also a league record.

Don't get me wrong Stoglin is a great scorer but that is really all he brings to the table. He doesn't have an all around game and in the last five games of the season where the Terps were 1-4, Stoglin was 29% from the field and averaged 17 points per game. Don't get me wrong I'm as big of a supporter of Stoglin as the next guy but if the Terps have aspirations of being a NCAA tourney next year his scoring and shot attempts must come down.

If that rubs Stoglin the wrong way and wants to be THE team, let him walk. For the first 20 or so games it was fun seeing Stoglin go out and score 25-30 points a game, but when MVP'e, and Len were in the fold Stoglin still wanted to yack up 25 shots a game. Nothing was more frustrating in the last 5 or so games of the season than watching Stoglin go on a fast break with 2 or 3 teammates and try and go through the one defender and get a charge, or miss a contested shot. With Cleare, and Layman coming in with Faust, Len, Padgett, and Parker, I can be content with Stoglin leaving the program after this year. Turgeon needs to coach guys who want to be involved in TEAM basketball and not have 4 guys on the floor watch one teammate yack up 20-25 shots per game.

[Sports Guy]

Rivers over Stoglin/Marshall for first team is a joke. Besides his dominant game against UNC he really hasn't been deserving of first team. The player who deserves first team over Rivers if it's going to be a guard is Kendall Marshall. He makes the UNC offense go, and without him UNC would be the third best team in the ACC. Zeller wouldn't be as dominant in the paint without Marshall, nor Henson. Marshall lead the ACC with 9.6 assist per game, which is also a league record.

Don't get me wrong Stoglin is a great scorer but that is really all he brings to the table. He doesn't have an all around game and in the last five games of the season where the Terps were 1-4, Stoglin was 29% from the field and averaged 17 points per game. Don't get me wrong I'm as big of a supporter of Stoglin as the next guy but if the Terps have aspirations of being a NCAA tourney next year his scoring and shot attempts must come down.

If that rubs Stoglin the wrong way and wants to be THE team, let him walk. For the first 20 or so games it was fun seeing Stoglin go out and score 25-30 points a game, but when MVP'e, and Len were in the fold Stoglin still wanted to yack up 25 shots a game. Nothing was more frustrating in the last 5 or so games of the season than watching Stoglin go on a fast break with 2 or 3 teammates and try and go through the one defender and get a charge, or miss a contested shot. With Cleare, and Layman coming in with Faust, Len, Padgett, and Parker, I can be content with Stoglin leaving the program after this year. Turgeon needs to coach guys who want to be involved in TEAM basketball and not have 4 guys on the floor watch one teammate yack up 20-25 shots per game.

Rivers averaged 17 PPG over the last 14 ACC games(or most of the season). That makes him one of the leading scorers in conference play.

[Floater]

Stoglin didn't deserve 1st team, at all. 2nd team sounds about right. Marshall deserved 1st team though.

[JohnD]

1999 when Clempsun's Terrell McIntyre did it.

Really I kind of expected it, since Maryland finished 6-10 in conference, and Stoglin ran out of gas two weeks ago. But, and I may cut my tongue off for saying it, and my fingers for typing it, Mike Scott should be player of the year. I fear it'll be Zeller. But no knock on Zeller, because he had a POY-type season. But Scott was incredible from start to finish.

[beaner]

1999 when Clempsun's Terrell McIntyre did it.

Really I kind of expected it, since Maryland finished 6-10 in conference, and Stoglin ran out of gas two weeks ago. But, and I may cut my tongue off for saying it, and my fingers for typing it, Mike Scott should be player of the year. I fear it'll be Zeller. But no knock on Zeller, because he had a POY-type season. But Scott was incredible from start to finish.

I'm happy as a Tar Heel fan for Tyler, he had a lot of setbacks early in his career and really became a great ACC player.

That being said, Scott should have won the award.

[Sports Guy]

Rivers was named ROY...unanimously.

Second player ever to get that.

Also, he is a Wooden award finalist.

I don't think its "just because he goes to Duke".

[The Epic]

I'm happy as a Tar Heel fan for Tyler, he had a lot of setbacks early in his career and really became a great ACC player.

That being said, Scott should have won the award.

I really think the UNC/UVA game had did him in. He lost any hype he had after laying an egg that game.

[Sports Guy]

Rivers over Marshall and Stoglin? I...I don't see it.

Best player on second best team and a guy who just took over games at times.

I think that's your reasoning.

Marshall has a better case than Stoglin IMO but I wonder if they didn't want 4 guys from one team on the first team?

[The Epic]

Marshall has a better case than Stoglin IMO but I wonder if they didn't want 4 guys from one team on the first team?

That has to be it, as I don't see any other justification for putting Rivers in there.