Redskins strike deal with Rams for No. 2 pick?

[ccbird]

Well Shefter did say the Browns called in a last ditch effort to try and trade up. Had to be an also crazy offer out of desperation.

Yeah, I saw after a read this thread that there are rumors that Cleveland was willing to deal a third 1st rounder and possibly a 2nd rounder themselves. If that is true, I'm not sure why the Rams don't take the Clev deal.

A. You only would move down 2 spots and would absolutely get either Blackmon or Khalil.
B. You get the 21st this year, and IMO there is a better chance that Cleveland's '13 1st rounder is a top 10 pick than Washington's '13 pick. ALso, of course, Clev 2nd rounder would also be 2 spots higher this year.

You basically move down 2 more spots in both the 1st and 2nd rounds and probably end up with a lower '13 draft pick. Plus you pass up on more immediate help at the 21st pick compared to a 1st rounder in '14. The other thing of note is you would have put Griffin in a different conference. Now, if Griffin blows up and is in fact a franchise QB it's a team you'll see more often in the reg season and will be battling with for possible NFC supremacy somewhere in the future. I know I read something last week that said the FO people in St Louis and Washington had a good relationship that could help broker a deal. It seems it may have helped because on paper if Clev was willing to essentially match Washington's offer Stl didn't get the best value.

[square634]

I honestly can't figure out why some Skins fans are happy about this trade. I mean I guess I get it, in that it's nice to dream that RGIII will save everything. But those may very likely be top 10 picks again in the next two years. To me it just seems like another reminder of how similar Snyder and Angelos are... their egos make them think they are smarter than everyone else and don't need to build through the draft.

[cmurter]

After seeing this deal, I'm thinking maybe the Colts should've just kept Peyton and traded the #1 pick for a boatload of picks..

[Catch 8]

At that cost, the Redskins should have received RGI and RGII, as well.

[Dr. FLK]

If he ends up an upper echelon QB, this deal is no biggie. If he sucks, it sets them back 5 years.

Sets us back 5 years? We already suck! It just maintains status quo a little bit longer.

I don't mind giving up the picks. They have done a good job acquiring picks, so we can still add talent through the draft. And, the Skins are in good salary cap position, so they can make moves through FA also. It's a lot to give up, but it's a lot more fun than debating Grossman/Beck.

[OrioleMagic]

The ultimate High risk/high reward move. Shanahan's legacy hinges on RGIII's success. The Redskins hinge on RGIII's success.

Unbelievable. I'm curious to see what they do in FA.

Also, they are going to publicly stay in the hunt for Peyton to drive his price up and further handicap whoever gets him financially, IMHO.

I just pray this works out. If it does, we will have made a bold move. If it doesn't we will have made the ultimate stupid move.

[backwardsk]

That O-line is going to be nasty with Khalil and Williams at tackle.

[waroriole]

Wow, what an incredibly stupid move by the Redskins.

[hallmt18]

Definitely a steep price, but I think it's worth the risk on this one. Part of the reason I feel okay with this is that the Skins have been getting better in the later rounds of the draft. Hopefully they continue to draft well. This could absolutely come back to haunt them, but it's a risk worth taking.

[McLovin]

If he ends up an upper echelon QB, this deal is no biggie. If he sucks, it sets them back 5 years.

I think it sets them back 5 years either way. If you can't draft well, you can't win. And if you can't, um, draft, you can't draft well. The Skins don't ever seem to get this simple point...

[LookinUp]

I think it sets them back 5 years either way. If you can't draft well, you can't win. And if you can't, um, draft, you can't draft well. The Skins don't ever seem to get this simple point...

Skins still have 6 or 7 picks this year and 6 each of the next two years. Plus huge cap room.

[Floater]

I think it sets them back 5 years either way. If you can't draft well, you can't win. And if you can't, um, draft, you can't draft well. The Skins don't ever seem to get this simple point...

This works for the Vinny Cerrato years, not the Bruce Allen years. He has draft pretty well so far. But if people think the Skins way of building will never ever change and they will continue to draft and sign over priced FA's like Vinny did and not realize things have changed a bit, then yeah, they are idiots!

[backwardsk]

Skins still have 6 or 7 picks this year and 6 each of the next two years. Plus huge cap room.

They have seven this year and seven next year.

Over the past 5 years, they have had 8 1st or 2nd round picks. Only 2 played more than 12 games, one was on IR, one is out of the league, and one got cut and caught 3 passes this year.

Big gamble, but they have significant cap room.

[Floater]

They have seven this year and seven next year.

Over the past 5 years, they have had 8 1st or 2nd round picks. Only 2 played more than 12 games, one was on IR, one is out of the league, and one got cut and caught 3 passes this year.

Big gamble, but they have significant cap room.

It is really a great year to have a significant amount of cap room because of the depth and talent in this year's FA class. It is really fortunate timing this year.

[backwardsk]

It is really a great year to have a significant amount of cap room because of the depth and talent in this year's FA class. It is really fortunate timing this year.

I think they need to go hard after Carr from Kansas City. I've read where they are looking at a safety from Jacksonville, I think his name is Lowrey. They did a good job at getting off the radar FAs last season like Bowen and Cofield.