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03-14-2012 10:07 AM #121
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Yeah, you can't punish a team for not following some secret back-door deal. That's basically what happened, there was collusion, WAS/DAL said screw you guys, and now the other owners are trying to get them back for not going with the rest of the owners. Remember NOTHING OFFICIAL has been handed out or dealt with yet, and I think they are going to have a REALLY hard time getting it to stick.
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03-14-2012 10:10 AM #122
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Tampa signed vjackson and nicks. They were below the cap floor last season. What was their penalty for that?
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03-14-2012 10:13 AM #123
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I hope there is no truth to the rumor that Goodell will suspend Griffin if he wears his superman socks to the draft.
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03-14-2012 01:11 PM #124
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Exactly. I don't see a difference in creating cap space by not spending or taking a large hit in the uncapped year. Originally Posted by backwardsk
Again, I agree with the general premise of the idea. However, there was nothing in the expiring CBA to prevent a team from taking advantage of the uncapped year. This, despite the fact that there were plenty of regulations on how teams could operate in the final year of the deal. Final 8 plan, additional tags, cap carryover etc.
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03-14-2012 01:12 PM #125
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1/2) On Redskin issue, not defending penalties but clarifying: they did NOT front-load deals in 2010 to take advantage of uncapped yearPer Andrew Brandt.2/2) They RENEGOTIATED existing deals to dump proration from future years all into the uncapped year. There is a difference
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03-14-2012 01:31 PM #126
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...and were approved by the league. Originally Posted by Sports Guy
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03-14-2012 01:35 PM #127
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Still not illegal, and as above, were approved. This is JUST the other owners trying to lash out at them, and using their leverage to do it. Originally Posted by Sports Guy
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03-14-2012 02:20 PM #128
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This is a completely arbitrary distinction. Both had the same effect. Originally Posted by Sports Guy
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03-14-2012 04:29 PM #129
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Agreed. Why would it matter if they were under contract or not before the year started? The idea that teams overloaded the uncapped year in anyone's contract is the issue at hand, no? Originally Posted by CrimsonTribe
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03-16-2012 10:19 AM #130
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I think its bs too.
I don't get how you can justify the penalty if the league approves it and there is no rule.
I don't care if Goodell himself said, don't do this...unless you put it down on paper, it is meaningless...on top of that, to have the same league who is penalizing you, also approve those contracts is a joke.
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03-20-2012 01:48 PM #131
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Are there any updates on this? Are the Skins and Cowboys fighting this, or have they decided to just accept it?
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03-20-2012 02:14 PM #132
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Yes. I don't have a link handy, but in the WaPo, Mark Maske wrote that this will likely go to arbitration. I saw the update last night. I don't know the timing of it though. Originally Posted by Dr. FLK
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03-20-2012 07:26 PM #133
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Yeah and the Cowboys are in if it's arbitration, if it was a lawsuit they were out. Originally Posted by backwardsk
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03-26-2012 10:02 AM #134
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A little more on the teams' challenging of the penalty, followed by Dan Graziano's views on John Mara's inability to shut his yap, among other things.
http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/reds...cap-penalties/
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...-cap-grievance
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...uld-be-talking
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03-26-2012 10:24 AM #135
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Originally Posted by Don Quixote
What salary cap John?"I thought the penalties imposed were proper," John Mara, the New York Giants' owner and chair of the NFL Management Council, which imposed the penalties said Sunday. "What they did was in violation of the spirit of the salary cap. They attempted to take advantage of a one-year loophole, and quite frankly, I think they're lucky they didn't lose draft picks."
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