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    Quote Originally Posted by allstar1579 View Post
    Yeah we aren't going to see articles about collusion because that's a pretty serious offense that you need some kinda hard proof to mention the collusion thing. It's pretty obvious that it happened but it wont be mentioned until someone comes out and says, yes, we as owners decided to do this for this reason...which won't happen.
    Didn't Mara kind of say that already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FLK View Post
    Didn't Mara kind of say that already?
    Sorta, he stopped JUST short of it, not enough to completely incriminate the owners but enough that people pretty much know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allstar1579 View Post
    Yeah we aren't going to see articles about collusion because that's a pretty serious offense that you need some kinda hard proof to mention the collusion thing. It's pretty obvious that it happened but it wont be mentioned until someone comes out and says, yes, we as owners decided to do this for this reason...which won't happen.
    Then the prospect of collision.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...he-nfl-got-mad

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ap-hearing-set

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...tsVT_blog.html

    A couple of interesting articles and the latest bs from the league trying to keep the Skins from having our "day in mediation" if you will.

    I think Skins fans deserve a much better explanation for how this went down and how the punishment was determined and the timing of the punishment.

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    The league and the other owners are full of it. This situation needs to be corrected.

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    Well, we got screwed.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...y-cap-penalty/

    I wouldn't be so pissed if this wasn't so transparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTribe View Post
    Well, we got screwed.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...y-cap-penalty/

    I wouldn't be so pissed if this wasn't so transparent.
    Yep. I hope Goodell doesn't think that there was an appearance of fairness just because there was a "kangaroo court" arbitration hearing. It is obvious to everyone what this was. What a crock...

    Screw concussions...Goodell is the biggest threat to the sustained popularity of football. He is jumping the shark.

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    The NFLPA strikes back.

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    I'm pretty sure that the NFLPA waived all future claims several times during the CBA negotiations, so, technically, the filing of these collusion claims violates the current CBA. Now, whether a Federal District Court Judge cares about that remains to be seen. I suspect that judge will weigh the public policy of encouraging collective bargaining against the detriment of potential collusion.

    The most important thing is that the Redskins did not file these claims, so Goodell can't "Saints" them into oblivion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubs View Post
    I'm pretty sure that the NFLPA waived all future claims several times during the CBA negotiations, so, technically, the filing of these collusion claims violates the current CBA. Now, whether a Federal District Court Judge cares about that remains to be seen. I suspect that judge will weigh the public policy of encouraging collective bargaining against the detriment of potential collusion.

    The most important thing is that the Redskins did not file these claims, so Goodell can't "Saints" them into oblivion.
    Goodell can do whatever he wants, haven't you figured that out?

    As for the Skins and Cowboys, what happened to you sucks but forgive me for not feeling all that bad for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano View Post
    Goodell can do whatever he wants, haven't you figured that out?

    As for the Skins and Cowboys, what happened to you sucks but forgive me for not feeling all that bad for you.
    Not sure we expected your pitty. When the commish starts randomly enforcing unwritten rules the way he is now, who knows when your team's turn will come. And we won't feel bad for you when it's the Ravens turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano View Post
    Goodell can do whatever he wants, haven't you figured that out?

    As for the Skins and Cowboys, what happened to you sucks but forgive me for not feeling all that bad for you.
    Haha...yeah, it is abundantly clear at this point. And I don't hold it against you that you don't feel bad for the punished teams. Neither are without some blame. The outcry (if you want to call it that) is related to the degree and application of the penalty. It's NFL lore now. Time for all parties to move on.

    I do hope something comes of the court case (although I don't think anything will), because the collusion of the NFL sets a bad example for labor practices in unionized workplaces. That eclipses anything football related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubs View Post
    Haha...yeah, it is abundantly clear at this point. And I don't hold it against you that you don't feel bad for the punished teams. Neither are without some blame. The outcry (if you want to call it that) is related to the degree and application of the penalty. It's NFL lore now. Time for all parties to move on.

    I do hope something comes of the court case (although I don't think anything will), because the collusion of the NFL sets a bad example for labor practices in unionized workplaces. That eclipses anything football related.
    Well, my lack of pity isn't because there is some blame towards you guys, the lack of pity is because I'm a Ravens fan. Honestly, if I were a Skins' fan I'd be handling this a lot worse than most of the posters on here are. It's a complete load of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano View Post
    Well, my lack of pity isn't because there is some blame towards you guys, the lack of pity is because I'm a Ravens fan. Honestly, if I were a Skins' fan I'd be handling this a lot worse than most of the posters on here are. It's a complete load of crap.
    We're working our way through the stages of grieving. I'm just skipping to acceptance because the battle appears to be over. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDubs View Post
    I do hope something comes of the court case (although I don't think anything will), because the collusion of the NFL sets a bad example for labor practices in unionized workplaces. That eclipses anything football related.
    Well said.

    And honestly the only reason the Ravens don't incur more wrath is thanks to James Harrison. I may hate the guy, but he's saved the Ravens from a heck of a lot of grief. Goodell loves his scapegoats and it wouldn't have been hard to make the Ravens the whipping boy if he really wanted to.

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