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  1. 03-14-2012 04:15 PM #1
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    After the 2nd round of the O's starter competition

    Chen, Simon and Hammel have had two good appearances getting to 3 innings in their last outings. They have been consistent.

    Matusz, Arrieta, Tillman and Bergy have had very good starts and not so good starts.

    Hunter is stretching out in B games. Sounds like he will probably be in his next round.

    Britton is up to an inning in a B game and Wada is getting closer to being in games as they recover from injuries.

    Galarraga and Eveland should probably be out of the starter competition
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcard View Post
    Chen, Simon and Hammel have had two good appearances getting to 3 innings in their last outings. They have been consistent.

    Matusz, Arrieta and Bergy have had very good starts and not so good starts.

    Hunter is stretching out in B games. Sounds like he will probably be in his next round.

    Britton is up to an inning in a B game and Wada is getting closer to being in games as they recover from injuries.

    Galarraga and Eveland should probably out of the starter competition
    You left out Tillman who is in the conversation at least. His last outing got a thread started about him. "Chris Tillman draws rave reviews", maybe you saw that.

    And Simon, while he has been consistent, I don't think is being considered as a serious candidate for the rotation.
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    Consistency can't be measured after two short appearances IMO, let it play out
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    I think this next round will be very important, because as the starters stretch out, the innings available become scarce. Let's say Matusz (the only pitcher to throw 4 innings so far) is able to get through 5 IP tomorrow and pitches well. (Note -- I am not sure they will let him go 5, even if the pitch count is low, because they still want to see other people.) Well, at that point, he'd have to be considered a real front runner for a spot. To the same point, the guys who can't manage to get through 4 IP in their 3rd start of the spring start to be in jeopardy.

    It's certainly been interesting so far, and it will get more interesting over the next several days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalbirdfan View Post
    You left out Tillman who is in the conversation at least. His last outing got a thread started about him. "Chris Tillman draws rave reviews", maybe you saw that.

    And Simon, while he has been consistent, I don't think is being considered as a serious candidate for the rotation.
    Thanks. Oversight on my part. i will add Tillman to the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianod View Post
    Consistency can't be measured after two short appearances IMO, let it play out
    Definition of "consistent". Unchanging in achievement or effect over a period of time. In this the period of time is two starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianod View Post
    Consistency can't be measured after two short appearances IMO, let it play out
    I agree, it's still too early - but we're getting closer to D-Day.

    I like these particular threads because the pitching is the most interesting part of the spring by far, IMO.
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  8. 03-14-2012 06:45 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalbirdfan View Post
    You left out Tillman who is in the conversation at least. His last outing got a thread started about him. "Chris Tillman draws rave reviews", maybe you saw that.

    And Simon, while he has been consistent, I don't think is being considered as a serious candidate for the rotation.
    Mike Ferrin says that Matusz and Tillman were the most impressive starters that he has seen so far in spring training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weams View Post
    Mike Ferrin says that Matusz and Tillman were the most impressive starters that he has seen so far in spring training.
    Who is Mike Ferrin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobby View Post
    Who is Mike Ferrin?
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ch...php?chatId=859
    http://www.brotherlyglove.com/2011/0...he-roundtable/
    http://www.siriusxm.com/mlbnetworkradio
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    Quote Originally Posted by weams View Post
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ch...php?chatId=859
    http://www.brotherlyglove.com/2011/0...he-roundtable/
    http://www.siriusxm.com/mlbnetworkradio
    So his comments were not limited to Oriole pitchers, or were they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcard View Post
    Definition of "consistent". Unchanging in achievement or effect over a period of time. In this the period of time is two starts.
    LOL. You're joking, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by weams View Post
    Mike Ferrin says that Matusz and Tillman were the most impressive starters that he has seen so far in spring training.
    Okay, I'll bite. Who is Mike Ferrin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RZNJ View Post
    Okay, I'll bite. Who is Mike Ferrin?
    He is the host oof XM MLB's roundtrip, lives in the B'more area and is quite a knowledgeable and funny guy IMO. Far and a way the best on that network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcard View Post
    Definition of "consistent". Unchanging in achievement or effect over a period of time. In this the period of time is two starts.
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    LOL. You're joking, right?
    He didn't say that being consistent over two starts had any meaning whatsoever. Or that consistency itself was valuable. Or that you can read much of anything into six innings of spring work. Only that those pitchers pitched similarly in consecutive appearances.

    I hope that was his meaning, because inferring anything else from two early spring starts is kind of ridiculous.
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