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03-24-2012 08:30 AM #151
26 out of 30 parks in attendance in 2011.
24 out of 30 parks in attendance in 2010.
21 out of 30 parks in attendance in 2009.
Of course those numbers are also purely inflated by teams including NON-REV tickets that are given to sponsors.
So in response for 3 straight seasons attendance levels have dropped your answer is to raise ticket prices and add walk-up fee's =
Now you are telling the average fan to spend hundreds of dollars on season ticket plans or plan ahead to goto a game...now why would I buy tickets for a game in advance where I might get called into work, bad weather, etc.
Just admit it... you guys applied VTS (Variable Ticketing Strategies) to make more profits in response to decreasing attendance figures....
The fans are smarter than you. PERIOD.
03-24-2012 08:43 AM #152Concessions:
03-24-2012 08:50 AM #153Ticketing
I am not angry that the Orioles decided that for their business model that a full price of the ticket increase was thought to be necessary for continued viability. I just think it is a poor strategy considering the quality of the on field product and emptiness of the stadium on most dates. I can not see that a "sale price ticketing" approach would not fill more seats and produce a better revenue stream.
We all know that the real solution is to win more games than are lost. The pricing would be very reasonable if that were to be the future results.
03-24-2012 09:00 AM #154Personnel
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03-24-2012 09:22 AM #156Personnel
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03-24-2012 11:53 AM #157Plus Member Since March 2010 All-Star
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With respect to the differences between advanced ticket prices and day of game ticket prices, it is important to have some background. When this change in designation was made a few years ago, we were at a stage when a difficult decision was being made as to whether we would raise all ticket prices or just raise prices for those buying tickets the day of a game. What is commonly thought of as a surcharge is in fact the full price of the ticket, the lower price represents a discount. We believed, and still do believe, that offering a discount to those who make a commitment to purchase in advance is a better solution than raising all prices. We look at this as though you are getting a bonus for buying early, not a penalty for waiting or making a last minute decision.
In terms of attendance, our own evidence indicates that it has not been negatively affected by charging full price on game days. Our walk up attendance is equal to and in many cases exceeding historic levels, and last year we had some of the largest walk-up crowds on record. Industry trends have also demonstrated that differently priced tickets for advance and gameday sales have not negatively impacted attendance.
We encourage fans who wish to save on the full price of a ticket to become a season plan holder (when possible) or to purchase single game tickets in advance.
But you also raised ticket prices. The premium games ticket price were increased over the prior three years. Also you changed the designation of certain seats, Some lower reserved seats became lower box and upper reserved seats became upper box. You did not change the price but you made more seats in the higher price range based on what is now considered a boxseat as opposed to reserved seating. Also the general admission sections got smaller.
03-24-2012 12:10 PM #158
03-24-2012 12:27 PM #159Plus Member Since March 2010 All-Star
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Only if you pay by the hour. He gets lawyer rates.
They can say, I am not telling the truth,but I have pocket schedules over the years that show both premium price increases and changes in the seating bowl. Some sections gave changed color and price and what they are called.
03-24-2012 01:41 PM #160
The seats in question are very visible and expensive. The people who historically buy those tickets are the same people who have been historically the biggest complaint about the fans attending games: businesses and wealthy individuals who use those seats for social purposes, not to watch a ballgame. You don't think that within that group there are people who will see others in those seats, call the club and scream about it?
That has nothing to do with the policy or its enforcement, it's just the basis of the issue.
03-24-2012 02:04 PM #161
What the Orioles failed to mention is that walk ups are solid because of all the Boston and NY games, which brings in THEIR fans...they don't care about the extra fees because its still a lot cheaper than going to Yankee Stadium or Fenway.
Did you guys expect anything more than the "form letter" answers?
03-24-2012 02:58 PM #162Plus Members Since 9/11 All-Star
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Cliff notes version:
We have an owner who isn't really committed to winning and would rather pocket O's/MASN profits than reinvest them in the team. In additon to that we've had cronyism and organizational incompetence ingrained for a generation. Dan Duquette will do what he can within those constraints.
I suppose this violates house rules.
03-24-2012 03:15 PM #163Released Released
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03-24-2012 08:23 PM #164
Mike Bordick is in the Oriole Hall of Fame
And he doesn't even have a Bobblehead. This must be corrected.
And Thank You for already allowing Brady to hire those strength and performance coaches and trainers.
03-25-2012 01:49 AM #165
Typical responses. Anyone that thought otherwise hasn't been paying attention to the past 14 years.