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04-14-2012 09:03 AM #91
Strasburg's stuff was better at draft time (legit "80" fastball, ++SV and +CH) and gets better plane. Bundy throws with less velo but less effort. Both have very good command, but Stras' is a little better across the board. Bundy, obviously, has time to catch up in a lot of these areas by the time he reaches the Majors.
I think most evaluators would take Strasburg over Bundy, were they both in the same draft, due to body type, overall stuff, and past workload. I don't think it'd be a shock if Bundy proved to be that rare undersized power ace, and ends up performing as well or better than Strasburg over the course of their respective careers. But that's all a long ways away.
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04-14-2012 05:42 PM #92
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Awesome. Thanks. Hopefully, with the decreased effort, Dylan can be the healthier of the two.
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04-14-2012 11:15 PM #93
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04-16-2012 04:21 PM #94
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Can someone compare Buxton to Hosmer when he was drafted? I am wondering what makes him risky (other than being in HS). Would you have said Machado was AS risky?
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04-16-2012 04:47 PM #95
Different kinds of players. Hosmer was more elite bat but didn't need to be a superstar in other areas because he's a 1B. Buxton is more of one of those fabled 5-tool players
Super athletic, tools all over, but still a bit raw and seems like half of those guys never develop and a lot of his value ties to his CF ability.
Machado had a lot of value tied to SS, but I think he was a little bit more safe with the bat than Buxton.
Not taking anything away from Buxton, he's supposed to be a great prospect, but for me as a philosophy I tend to shy away from the 5-tool OF.Last edited by allstar1579; 04-16-2012 at 04:51 PM.
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04-16-2012 05:37 PM #96
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04-16-2012 05:45 PM #97
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Upton has averaged 4 fWAR per season over his 5 full seasons. I don't necessarily think Upton is a great comp so much as a convenient archetype match, but if you guaranteed me Upton-like production from Buxton, I'd grab him at the top of the draft without hesitation.
That's not to say Buxton doesn't come with a good amount of risk, but I think you're underrating Upton.
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04-16-2012 08:25 PM #98
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04-17-2012 01:02 PM #99
Not only that, but how does the #4 pick in this draft year compare to last year or the year before. Is he that good, or is it a poor draft class. Without having some reference when making these lists it is almost impossible for those of us that don'[t follow this as closely as the professionals on here do to get the proper value out of it. And I don't want their hard work to not be recognized. But I do need some kind of reference point.
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04-17-2012 01:05 PM #100
Mark Appel is currently #1 on the pref list and would generally be in the discussion for 6-10 range last year, behind Rendon, Starling, Cole, Bundy and (for me) Sonny Gray. There isn't much separation up top this year, so you generally have 4-5 players that would generally slot in the 3-5 range in a typical class, or 6-10 range in last year's class.
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04-17-2012 02:48 PM #101
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04-18-2012 12:01 AM #102
Another sneak peak for the kind folks chatting draft over here. Full article will post tomorrow at noon and will start to compare/contrast player profiles at each position:
Current Preference List (April 18, 2012)
1. Mark Appel, rhp, Stanford Univ.
2. Kevin Gausman, rhp, Louisiana St. Univ.
3. Byron Buxton, of, Appling County HS (Baxley, Ga.)
4. Kyle Zimmer, rhp, Univ. of San Francisco
5. Albert Almora, of, Mater Acad. (Hialeah Gardens, Fla.)
6. Mike Zunino, c, Univ. of Florida
7. Lucas Giolito, rhp, Harvard-Westlake HS (Studio City, Calif.)
8. Carlos Correa, ss/3b, Puerto Rico Baseball Acad. (Gurabo, P.R.)
9. Gavin Cecchini, ss, Barbe HS (Lake Charles, La.)
10. Deven Marrero, ss, Arizona St. Univ.
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04-18-2012 12:42 AM #103
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Thanks Nick.
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04-18-2012 08:57 AM #104
Thanks Nick. Interesting to see Almora moving up. Is there power in the bat? Everything else seems to be there.
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04-18-2012 11:43 AM #105



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