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04-05-2012 08:26 AM #226
04-05-2012 08:29 AM #227
But I absolutely 100% feel that you should have to take a test to see if you know about this country's history and how the government works in order to vote. If people have to take such a test to gain citizenship, people should have to take a similar test to vote.
04-05-2012 08:31 AM #228I love the 19th amendment, now I have two votes and next year when my daughter hits 18 I will have three.
04-05-2012 08:41 AM #229
"Government works" = an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp, down escalator, Senate budget
04-05-2012 09:03 AM #230
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04-05-2012 09:27 PM #234
When I went to vote for the Presidential primary last month, I had a little redneck feller in front of me. When the election worker asked if he wanted to vote Democrat or Republican, he said, "neither one!" He didn't know what he was there for. They had to show him a paper ballot for him to figure out who was running, and he expressed surprise that no one was running against Obama.
His vote should not be equal to mine. I don't know how he even found the polling place.
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04-05-2012 11:13 PM #238
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04-05-2012 11:47 PM #239
I am a liberal in one of the most conservative States in the nation and I get really upset when I talk politics with my neighbors and they are so uninformed they embarrass themselves. Then I see how uninformed some of "my" voters are from other States and I figure you could make voting harder and you would probably eliminate the same percentage of voters from both parties so it would make no difference in the end.
04-07-2012 12:27 PM #240
It never ceases to amuse me that the people that rail against any bureaucratic system or any government intrusion into anyone's personal life now want the government creating a massive bureaucracy to directly impact someone's rights.
And PLEASE living here is not a privilege. There are a lot of people who would probably love to move somewhere else but I don't know if you have ever tried to price expatriation but let me tell you, its a little pricey. One can not simply just say: "I'm moving to Canada" without thousands of dollars of disposable income.
Here you go.
Every state in the union requires, for graduation from high school, An American History/ Civics/ Government course. If you graduate from high school in this country (or receive a GED) you have to have passed, or at least attained an equivalency, in this course. Therefore 75% of the US population have passed this course already. Big surprise the 25% of the country that does not graduate from high school TENDS NOT TO VOTE due to demographic trends.
If the reasons people vote "disturb" you then guess what - THAT IS WHAT FREEDOM MEANS. People are free to vote however they want, for whatever reasons they want. You may not like that, and if it is you have the right to get more involved in the process, join groups to help better educate the electorate or you can take solace in the fact that if nothing else your vote will cancel out someone else's that is voting for a reason that does not meet your high standards.
Since women have gotten the vote studies have shown that the "more attractive" candidate has always won. This has been doubly true since the advent of TV.
Young people vote overwhelming Democratic but they DON'T VOTE. People don't start voting until after 30. The groups that vote the most are the 60+ demographic which is why no entitlements will be touched - at all - for the next decade until the baby boomers start dying out.
This is what liberty is, I can vote for whomever I choose for whatever reason I choose. In Federalist 10, Madison talks about the dangers of faction. He is speaking about political parties and groups but it applies here. He talks about how factions lead to instability in a democracy BUT since you can't regulate people's intelligence, emotions or desires (Because that is tyranny) the only way to combat it is to EMBRACE IT and allow the different conflicting groups cancel each other out acting like a sort of democratic filter.
Yes were there people that voted for Obama for no other reason than he was black - sure. But there was also a population that didn't vote for him for the same reason. Are there people that want to vote for Santorum because he has a spiritual direct line to Jesus? ABSOLUTELY - but there is an equal population that will not vote for him for that specific reason.
People that want this are creating a problem that doesn't exist. We have allowed virtually anyone to vote in this country for the last 45 years (longer in non-Jim Crow states) and the Union still stands. It is a problem that doesn't exist in any real capacity.