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    Meh, Episodes I and II were complete garbage (I actually think episode I might have slightly more artistic merit than II).

    Episode III is decent but is still awful compared to IV-VI. I actually know people that think III > VI. I laugh at those fools.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, I have no interest in watching via this guy's plan unless the "machete" approach includes chopping off II and III as well.

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    The "machete" plan seems ok for first time watching and I will give it a shot myself for S and G's.

    Forgive a little venting but my biggest gripe's about episode III:

    1. The video game dialog in the begin "oh no, buzz droids", "R2 hit'em center eye".

    2. Weird turn to the dark side scene. I'll do what ever you say Master blah blah...

    3."Don't make me kill you". Are you effing kidding me! You had the set up right there George! You could show right there that Anakin is now Darth Vader. Remember when Vader had Luke pinned down in Empire? The best Vader line "Don't make me destroy you". It was right freakin there!!! I never would have thought one word would piss me off so much but, as soon as I heard Anakin say "kill" I rolled my eyes and said aloud WTF! I still think this everytime I watch III...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano View Post
    Meh, Episodes I and II were complete garbage (I actually think episode I might have slightly more artistic merit than II).

    Episode III is decent but is still awful compared to IV-VI. I actually know people that think III > VI. I laugh at those fools.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, I have no interest in watching via this guy's plan unless the "machete" approach includes chopping off II and III as well.
    With context, I think II and III can be improved by watching them after V, like the guy said, with the machete approach.

    I agree, II is pretty awful too. I actually prefer I to II but at least there is some plot development in II that plays a part in the whole saga, that doesn't occur in I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo81 View Post
    3."Don't make me kill you". Are you effing kidding me! You had the set up right there George! You could show right there that Anakin is now Darth Vader. Remember when Vader had Luke pinned down in Empire? The best Vader line "Don't make me destroy you". It was right freakin there!!! I never would have thought one word would piss me off so much but, as soon as I heard Anakin say "kill" I rolled my eyes and said aloud WTF! I still think this everytime I watch III...

    rant over
    Yeah. Just edit it though. George would.

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    UGH!!! 1:17-1:39 is particularly horrific.

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    The Empire Strikes Back rules.

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    I found little redeeming facts in the prequels other than Yoda kicking some ass, that was cool. Either way though, why was Yoda such a weird little guy when Luke first met him in Empire? That never made sense to me, especially after seeing him in action during the prequels.

    The Machete approach is alright I guess, but if I knew someone who had never seen the movies, I'd have them do IV-VI and skip Lucas' disastrous prequels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony-OH View Post
    I found little redeeming facts in the prequels other than Yoda kicking some ass, that was cool. Either way though, why was Yoda such a weird little guy when Luke first met him in Empire? That never made sense to me, especially after seeing him in action during the prequels.

    The Machete approach is alright I guess, but if I knew someone who had never seen the movies, I'd have them do IV-VI and skip Lucas' disastrous prequels.
    When 800 years old you reach, look as good, you will not, hmm? The little fella has been living alone for 20 years...he's bound to be borderline psychotic by the time Luke meets him! lol

    If we try to compare the prequals to the originals, they will be awful every time. But watching them JUST as a Star Wars fan, I like them, especially episode 3. Episode 3 I would put in there with the original trilogy...its just a shame we had to live thru 1 and 2 to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipper9 View Post
    When 800 years old you reach, look as good, you will not, hmm? The little fella has been living alone for 20 years...he's bound to be borderline psychotic by the time Luke meets him! lol

    If we try to compare the prequals to the originals, they will be awful every time. But watching them JUST as a Star Wars fan, I like them, especially episode 3. Episode 3 I would put in there with the original trilogy...its just a shame we had to live thru 1 and 2 to get there.
    True.. didn't Yoda also like lose his crap when nearly all of the Jedi were killes except for Obi One, and himself. I also always wondered who trained Yoda and who Vader's father was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipper9 View Post
    When 800 years old you reach, look as good, you will not, hmm? The little fella has been living alone for 20 years...he's bound to be borderline psychotic by the time Luke meets him! lol

    If we try to compare the prequals to the originals, they will be awful every time. But watching them JUST as a Star Wars fan, I like them, especially episode 3. Episode 3 I would put in there with the original trilogy...its just a shame we had to live thru 1 and 2 to get there.
    Yoda was 900

    865 in episode I and a whole lot greener...




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    He was weird because he was testing Luke. And Luke failed. Ghost Obi-Wan had to do some fast talking to get Luke some training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wedge View Post
    He was weird because he was testing Luke. And Luke failed. Ghost Obi-Wan had to do some fast talking to get Luke some training.
    Ah, Yoda was gonna train him anyway, maybe not right that day, but he would have. Luke was it. After him the rebellion was basically FUBAR. Yea, like Leia is gonna dethrone the emperor and Darth Vader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano View Post
    Ah, Yoda was gonna train him anyway, maybe not right that day, but he would have. Luke was it. After him the rebellion was basically FUBAR. Yea, like Leia is gonna dethrone the emperor and Darth Vader.
    Well, looking at it with the eyes of the backstory, Yodas initial testing of Luke probably had him thinking "great, he's JUST like his old man. No way." And don't forget that Yoda is the one who calls Leia the "another" when Obi-Wan says Luke was their last hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Cerrano View Post
    BTW, if you've never watched the Plinkett reviews of the first 3 episodes on Red Letter Media, you're doing yourself a disservice.
    Second this. Plinkett completely eviscerates the Anakin trilogy better than anyone.

    Instead of arresting the Emperor, Mace Windu should have laid down Ezekial 25:17 on him and finished him with the light saber, 1-2-3.

    The original trilogy had it's embarrassing moments as well. Ewoks? Really? Gary Kurtz and Harrison Ford wanted Han to have a heroic death in VI, and Lucas went with Ewoks and bongos.

    Luke as a Jedi confronting Jabba is a joke as well. He's about as tough looking in that confrontation as say, Tom Cruise or Leonardo DiCaprio. That is, if any of them tried to get in your face, you'd just laugh your arse off at the absurdity of it.

    Every time I see Billy Dee Williams, all I can picture is Colt 45 malt liquor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonySoprano View Post
    Second this. Plinkett completely eviscerates the Anakin trilogy better than anyone.

    Instead of arresting the Emperor, Mace Windu should have laid down Ezekial 25:17 on him and finished him with the light saber, 1-2-3.

    The original trilogy had it's embarrassing moments as well. Ewoks? Really? Gary Kurtz and Harrison Ford wanted Han to have a heroic death in VI, and Lucas went with Ewoks and bongos.

    Luke as a Jedi confronting Jabba is a joke as well. He's about as tough looking in that confrontation as say, Tom Cruise or Leonardo DiCaprio. That is, if any of them tried to get in your face, you'd just laugh your arse off at the absurdity of it.

    Every time I see Billy Dee Williams, all I can picture is Colt 45 malt liquor.
    Disagree with your assessment of Jedi. The Ewoks I always felt got a raw deal -- sure they're a tad annoying but they don't bother me all that much. Some people make it out as if they ruin the entire movie. Team Solo needed help on Endor to win the battle -- should the Ewoks have been more savage? Less furry?

    If Han Solo had died my childhood would have been traumatized.

    Luke matures A LOT, I felt, between Empire and Jedi. Yea he still has the same boyish looks, but he's more stoic -- I feel like he means business.

    Maybe it's because I'm younger, but I'll only ever know Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian.

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