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04-23-2012 04:41 PM #1
K.C. Royals - How's that farm system?
Wasn't K.C. supposed to be absolutely stacked in the minors and ready to compete by now? I could have swore I read about it on Fangraphs... daily.
How's that working out? They are 3-12, with 10 straight losses.
I guess there is more to baseball than just prospects, after all.
04-23-2012 04:52 PM #2
I'd take those 5 on my team any day of the week.
It's the SP that is killing them and they are loaded with SP talent in the minors. When they start weeding though those guys we should start to see the difference.
Give it time...
04-23-2012 05:01 PM #3
As long as that difference doesn't come before May 27, that's fine. I'd like an Orioles win, since I'll actually be at the park.
04-24-2012 12:13 PM #4
04-24-2012 12:34 PM #5
It took Tampa a few years failing to live up to expectations before they turned the corner. Maybe this is how completely rebuilding from within works?
04-24-2012 12:51 PM #6
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04-25-2012 10:37 PM #8
Glad to see them get a win tonight. Was starting to feel bad for Royals fans. We all still remember how 2010 started - that wasn't much fun.
04-26-2012 08:00 AM #9
I'm not sure what the point of the OP is. Gloating over a young team oozing with talent taking some lumps at the beginning of a season where expectations were torqued a notch too high? Sounds eerily familiar. Whatever.
04-26-2012 09:48 AM #10
I think the emotional aspect of the OP was just frustration from constantly reading the know-it-alls at Fangraphs who have been telling us for 3 years that Kansas City is going to be a contender "next year" because of their farm.
But I'll give you that the thread was probably in poor taste, in retrospect.
04-26-2012 11:02 AM #11
A little Schadenfreud isnt bad. Lord knows we seem to get the national press gloating at every young starter of ours that poops the bed.
04-26-2012 11:13 AM #12Plus Member Since 10/08 Major League Starter
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04-26-2012 11:29 AM #13
13 were drafted or signed originally by the Rays
7 were signed as free agents
7 were traded for
1 was acquired on waivers
Nobody gets good through a farm system alone. I've seen some recent research indicating that no team of recent vintage would have been much over .500 relying solely on their farm system. A great farm gives you 30-35 WAR active on the MLB roster at any time. Even the Rays have to supplement 10-15 wins a year via other methods.
04-26-2012 01:24 PM #14Plus Member All-Star
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In 2011, the Rays got 28.7 WAR from home-grown talent. (Fangraphs)
As a comparison, the O's got 15.6 WAR.
To be fair, the Rays haven't been nearly as active in trading for prospects as the O's have, and the O's probably make up some of this difference because of their ability to trade. Even in the best case scenario, though, that still leaves us around 8-10 wins short.
If our pitching comes around this season, though...
04-26-2012 04:01 PM #15Plus Member Since December 2008 All-Star
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